Frankly, everyone else was being incredibly unreasonable, so I'm just going with the flow.

Meanwhile, I'm still miffed at Sony for not supporting beta in their Blu-ray players.

Ha! I actually liked that part. It feels like a nod to the Zelda games where you smash up people's crates and pots and they don't say a word (except for one part in Wind Waker where there were some expensive ones that a dude would make you reimburse him for).

"That being said, how the hell am I to try it so see if I like it without a working demo?"

1) That "online pass" is just free DLC. It's not even an online-based game.

I saw that deal and almost went for it, but the estimated dates of delivery were all "not launch day" and they wouldn't even let me pre-order with PayPal. Pre-ordered it from Best Buy, and not only did they let me use PayPal, but it was delivered first thing this morning.

This was one of the first things I thought of when playing the Reckoning demo. It definitely reminds me of Fable/Fable II, or, like you said, what Fable was SUPPOSED to be... the major difference being that this is actually fun to play.

Yeah, I just hit 6.5MB on my save file last night, and sure enough, things are starting to stagger framerate-wise. Rather good timing since Reckoning's coming on the delivery truck today and I was going be setting Skyrim aside for awhile anyway.

*headdesk*

Um... I thought they said this was the plan was from the beginning. If the "remake" story is what's been going around, no wonder I keep seeing people being PO'd they aren't remaking VII , VI, V, etc. instead.

"Not bad."

Wow, have you never heard of the term "cumulative"?

The demo was an EA hack-job that unfortunately doesn't fully represent 38 Studios' final gold version of the game. Just FYI.

If the developers are to be believed (and they do seem sincere enough; the Great Pumpkin would be proud), while resources are indeed recycled (flowers, bridges, etc.; there's only so much room on the disc), the actual dungeons and locations are virtually hand-built to especially not look all the same.

I've heard this sentiment about this game before in recent weeks (which is why I have to laugh about the whole "extra 7 quests free for new buyers" debacle). I think it's the first time in the history of gaming that I've actually heard concerns about a game having TOO much content.

"Not so much for this scenario but in cases were it is necessary to play online it is a problem. It removes 50% of the games value at that point and used games are never 50% of the retail version when the game is semi new."

"3) own a 360, meaning I have to find to find another £60 to access live and receive my download."

"Is the difference between a used game and new only 5$? really?"

He's not wrong.

Yes! A fellow XIII fan! I really enjoyed the first one for many reasons. The cookie-cutter reason I've used when talking to haters the last couple years is, "I liked it for what it was, not dissed it for what it wasn't."