Perhaps I misunderstood the tone of your dispatches. To tell the truth (and this isn’t a cop-out) I feel like the entire thread has made a hard left and I feel weird and uncomfortable being the catalyst for this. I wrote what I wrote based on family and local lore and while I’m not ashamed of it, I’d rather not…

I kind of don’t want you to because I want you to enjoy the warm glow of a love story. Damn oral history and non-fluffiness goodness. No more warts and all talk from me this week. I’m not even telling people if they have TP stuck to their shoe.

Wow...I’m Googling now. I had no idea his daughter wrote a book! Imagine the stuff she saw in her formative years. (Allegedly.)

I’m not going there on this thread because people are super-pissed on the other thread...I’ll refer you there, but I admit freely that I wasn’t being snarky or a troublemaker. It’s just that we often have an anesthetized view of history when it’s better to just accept all of it, warts and all.

I kind of feel like the a-hole of the century and a huge killjoy this week. On the Loving movie thread I relayed some-not-so-happy info that I always understood to be related to the case. Now I’m reposting this not-so-blind item about America’s Favorite Dad ® but I really am super-tired of everyone “wanting” a…

I can’t answer it in the way you want. I’d be putting myself at risk for libel and frankly, I feel like I’ve already said too much. Google and use the context clues and it should all make more sense...

I guess I don’t understand why you’re so angered by this? Why such a visceral reaction. I’m kind of regretting even trying to discuss this outside of Caroline County because I feared this kind of “kill the messenger” kind of reaction.

Haaaaaaaaa! I so needed that this morning!

“February 20, 2015

I think that’s a great idea; No, seriously. And I’ve tried to find more info on the Internet about the stories, but my Great Aunt pointed out to me that her family was quite proud that their daughter was marrying a full blood white man and in their eyes “their love” was just the culmination of their…

And I’m sure that’s what she felt. I’m not debating people’s feelings or the zeitgeist, I just think that the overall story is not as syrupy sweet as is purported. And I’d rather talk about it and have a positive dialogue because you JUST KNOW that when the movie is released in America (and there’s Oscar buzz) someone…

As I said above (and it’s alluded to very generally in the made for TV Lela Rochon/Tim Hutton movie) their families were interconnected. When her family/brother found out about the pregnancy, the could have spilled the beans about “other” activities Richard Loving was into.

If one lives in a segregated part of a county because your wife is Black and your children are biracial and you have a hard time finding work because of this and would like to open a business, it makes sense to look for investors whom identify with you/would be the ONLY people you might be able to find to invest in…

I was worried the dog was gonna get stomped. They were jogging super close. Was anyone else worried that an errant Björnsson kick during the jog would lead to the following?

And I have no problem with the idea of a love story, as long as it’s informed by a real discussion of the zeitgeist and of consent. That’s all.

Yes, I came to believe they came to love each other in whatever way worked for them.

Basically, from what I recall/was told, the issue was not them having sex (per se/him sleeping with her regularly) but living together openly and marrying. Is that part discussed in the documentary or movie? I should Google it.

Considering that most business and businesses were segregated and that Richard did most of his business with Black people, looking for Black investors is not that far-fetched. But I’m glad we’re having a dialogue. This is an uncomfortable discussion for me because I feel like the biggest killjoy ever! In general love…

From what I understand, they had interconnecting “business” interests of the questionable kind going back to at least the 30's. Basically, everybody’s fates were tied up. Again, it’s complicated I know what I’m saying flies in the face of a fell-good, well-packaged narrative.

From my post I said it was basically all hearsay from family who lived in Caroline County for generations. They actually still live there. The races “mixed” in ways that many post-Civil War communities did.