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"Fair enough"?

Exactly this.

heh - true that.

Hence the exploitation. You know, offering Lindsay, whose career is lagging, a paycheck in exchange for publicizing her struggle with recovery...

Maybe Oprah should "cut the bullshit". She's exploiting an addict who is fresh out of rehab. For ratings. Any drama that Lindsay stirs up just increases viewer interest. And Oprah's profit margins.

Hey now. No one is challenging your right to believe. Just as others have the right to question the accuracy of your beliefs.

Oh, apologies! I thought you were being sarcastic.

If you're not giving the voices of saudi women a central forum in the discussion, then I'm not sure how you can claim to advocate on their behalf.

Fully agree.

Is it a "false equivalency", though? Or is it because you view gendered cultural clothing sanctions from within your own cultural differently? As Islamic women who veil likely do.

To that end, perhaps it is better to know as opposed to "believe". And a good place to start is to ask Saudi women themselves about their various cultural experiences/desires, as opposed to drawing generalist, misleading conclusions on their behalf. While keeping in mind the ongoing gendered rights encroachments

Except that the discussion relates to the cancelled pilot, which misrepresented Saudi cultures.

I dunno. The amount of western nation slut walks that have been organized in the last few years speaks to the policing of women's dress codes - and sexual autonomy- in western nations.

Good call. I'm done. More generally though, the amount of orientalist feminism that happens in Jezebel's comments, and the level of support it gets, really dismays me.

No. Rather, you are being asked not to misrepresent it. As this cancelled show clearly does.

Fyi, there are US laws requiring female swim instructors to fully veil their breasts while teaching. Whether they like it or not. And, there is a male dominated judicial system, composed of police, lawyers and judges, ready to harass them if they do not comply.

For someone who keeps dismissing others' racism concerns with "You. Haven't. Seen. The. Show", it's interesting that you then defend the show, saying "I don't think this show was racist or offensive at all. I would have watched it."

Indeed. Your authoritative direction that someone is "really going to have to learn" about POC discrimination smacks of white privilege. Which is, truly, both sad and embarrassing. For you.

Yeah, the warning signs start to go off when someone's argument is dominated by making personal insults, dictums, and general outrage.

The link to people who possess the script reveal exact quotes, including a description of veiled Muslim women as "completely formless, anonymous".