Manuals still offer a lot of advantages for heavy duty towing and hauling applications. They’re still widely used in semi’s and similar vehicles even if they’ve been surplanted by autos in modern pickups.

These are no more identifiable than a selection of modern cars.

I’ve done both of those things. I’m eternally greatful we decided to base our society on individual rights rather than asanine collectivist ideals.

I have. And I've come to the conclusion capitalism is not exploitation.

Or I agree to work for a fair wage. I don’t need medical benefits, or parental leave. I’m a young guy without a family. I’ll forego that useless stuff for more money and experience.

People like to say this but when you actually look at the discounted numbers, they really aren't bad. You can get a crew cab f150 stx fx4 package for 34k out the door. That's really quite a bit of vehicle for the price. Every manufacturer is offering these ridiculous discounts.

Nope.

Funny to hear you say this. Guy I worked with a few years back had a old VW we called the crayolamobile for this very reason.

Nah. Thats what they do over at Porsche

once again i dont see how. I'm much more likely to bump the horn than any controls on the wheel in any car I've been in.

once again im legft a little confused. How are you touching stuff on the center console if you’re leaning away from it?unless the buttons are literally placed on the side I don’t see how you’re knee can hit anything.

I’ve driven nothing but vehicles from the last 6 or 7 years and never had this problem. Everything from my tiny ass mazda 3 to 1 ton chevy trucks. Currently have a 14 f150 that I daily. I can’t remember ever unintentionally hitting a button or knob despite having nothing but buttons and knobs in the interior.

Really? I don't think Ive ever bumped a control in one of my vehicles.

The thing about the Tundra is that it's a steady seller. It's paid off and sells a good 100k units a year. While it won't save Toyota, it is profitable with a strong following.

The small business I work at literally just had the busiest two months we’ve ever had.

No. I never said that sign didn't exist in Australia I said signs like this do exist in America.

That’s like saying a focus rs isn’t an enthusiast vehicle. It definitely is. As is a rwd sports sedan with a 6.2l v8 tied to a manual transmission. It’s practically the definition of what enthusiast on this site beg manufacturers to make. It wasnt even listed under the “cars” tab on chevy website when they sold it.…

this is spoken like someone who has never been to America. The roads are often terrible. There are some roads out there that look like they were carpet bombed. More people doesn’t equal better roads. Beyond this, the the shear size of the country and division of spending means underfunded infrastructure across the…

Theres no shortage of shitty roads in america either. In fact there’s probably more of them. In both cases you’re dealing with a low to the ground front engine rear wheel drive car (it wasn’t until 2018 they offered awd in the Commodore according to wikipedia). So no ground clearence and poor angles in both cases…

Only if you’re a picky enthusiast. Sport sedans were never high sellers to start with. When you combine the lack of interest most people have in manuals, the lack of interest most enthusiast have in sedans, and the lack of enthusiast who buy new cars, you get a recepie for loosing money. On the bright side. Other…