1.) I never said maternity leave was at mens expense. I said higher insurance rates to cover the additional costs of womens healthcare where it is illegal for the insurance companies to charge women more than men is at mens expense. (women have more money spent on their healthcare even if you exclude reproductive…
Why shouldn't men be allowed to defend themselves against their physically abusive wives, aka violent bitches?
"Not when the founder of A Voice For Men writes an article stating that all rapists should be acquitted, even if there is overwhelming evidence showing that they committed the crime. "
A.) he said that people…
yup.
not manual labor.
Anyways even so, fathers polled responded that they wish they could spend more time with their family or be a stay at home dad, but they fucking can't. because patriarchy I guess....
Go look at lumber jacks, miners, fishermen, construction workers. I'm willing to bet most of them at male...
your rebuttal to B is really fucking silly. and inconveniencing someone isn't oppression.
You can't prove we have a patriarchy in the US today by talking about other places but lets address some of your claims.
yeah those few hundred girls that were kidnapped, did you ever wonder why there were no boys kidnapped? ITS…
if it's only a small leap to assuming that people from 4chan trolling are MRAs.
then it's only a small leap to assuming that people from 4chan trolling are feminists.
Thus feminists actually invented #endfathersday by your logic.
"After "it was posted to /r/mens_rights" you didn't have much of an argument to claim no…
"Show me anything that backs up any of the claims you make. "
which claim.
"You say "let's look at the facts" and fail to provide any. You simply repeat "tell me what patriarchy is" without making any attempt to disprove it. "
its called burden of proof, you claim patriarchy exists, you prove it. Also I did give counter…
I litterally explained in the first post that the thread was made AFTER a 4chan thread by 1 day old accounts and was shut down by mods.
there really isn't a way to make it more clear.
1.) I never said that feminists didnt try to combat historical gender roles, I just said they only do it FOR WOMEN.
I think i've explained this twice now, so here it goes for the third time.
Often times gender role restrictions imposed on one gender put de facto restrictions on the other. for example if women are forced…
Nearly 100% of the boys born in america are "at risk" for genital mutilation.
where is the outrage?
1.What you are calling a proxy benefit is one of the main objectives of feminism as I understand it.
Yes trolls did. not MRAs despite what jezebel reported.
the post on /r/mens_rights was made by 1 day old accounts, everyone on /r/mens_rights agreeing was 1 day old accounts or accounts that had never posted on /r/mens_rights before. regulars and the mods said it was a terrible idea, then it was deleted.
so if you think…
whats your definition of patriarchy then. Keep in mind patriarchy is blamed for basically everything wrong in womens lives so it can possibly be as simple as "lol men have power in govt"
PS: I didnt make up that definition.
aand if "Imprisoning both in strict roles that don't fit a lot of people AND preclude women from…
You seem confused.
someone on 4chan made a thread about the report form.
AFTER that there was a thread made on /r/mens_rights by a 1 day old account, other 1 day old accounts agreed. the mods said it was a terrible idea and deleted the thread.
if you think that proves that MRAs did it, then you're honestly fucking stupid.
if making fun of someone on the internet is harassment then all of jezebel should be arrested for harassing republicans for instance...
I asked for one time where feminism diminished a womans advantage over men in the name of equality.
None of those diminished advantages women had over men... in fact none of those benefit men as a group except by proxy.
1.) this is a proxy benefit of reducing the restrictiveness of the female role. As I've mentioned…
I haven't shut out any debate.
and if you agree with me on those points then you agree that we need the MRM, so SURELY when the MRM gets trashed around here you'll pipe up to defend them right?
and if I may ask what points made you want to raze the internet and why?
Anything that proves that either
A.) men built society for the benefit of men at the expense of women.
B.) that gender roles oppress women but not men.
The only evidence i've been presented in this article comments was that men are the over whelming majority of govt officials and ceos.
but that doesn't go to show they use…
Wut.
how is both partners using violence against each other leading towards consenting sex rape? are you fucking stupid?
why are MRAs evil?
