Sooooo is anyone addressing the question of why did it take so long before she decided to speak up in his defense?

Everyone is blaming the show like everyone on the show aren’t grown ass adults. Yes, it fosters an atmosphere of drinking and hooking up and that’s what the participants want to do. Or, in the case of Taylor-not drink and make out with a cute guy in Mexico. And either case is okay because they are grown ass adults.

This blaming the show is kinda contrived isn’t it? How is the show responsible for recklessly fostering an environment where outside influences aren’t taken into account, is your employer responsible for keeping your medications in check when you go to the office christmas party? Are bars responsible if someone…

There’s a big difference between drunk and incapacitated. I haven’t been watching this season but if the footage showed anything resembling incapacitation there is no way ABC would have aired it.

Well, Beckzilla tried to play the attractive blonde victim card until ABC showed the receipts and she furiously backtracked, so for them nothing of value was lost.

She is incredibly hard to believe, and it seems she was the aggressor. Shouldn’t men be able to be there free from sexual assault?

I honestly don’t feel like he did anything wrong...I really want people to know, I don’t blame DeMario. I’m not the one pointing fingers at DeMario, I never said a bad word about DeMario.

It looks like some are still insinuating he sexually assaulted her, so white feminism is still alive and well here.

While I know that people *do* take advantage of women who are clearly unable to consent, the fring case where someone is acting goofy after having had a few drinks but not “falling down” is where things get tricky.

Just damage control, folks.

This case is an interesting one precisely because of the impact it may have on consent discourse. She herself asserts that no one could tell she was beyond the point of consent:

the true fault lies with Bachelor in Paradise and its producers who’ve fostered an environment in which drunk sexual encounters are not only frequent, but expected, and medications or other outside factors affecting the cast members’ mood and stability are apparently not taken into account

I am about to write you a long message that I hope makes sense! Apologies in advance if it is a jumbled mess. Lots of thoughts on this.

So are the Jezzies here still calling for his immediate arrest?

At this point I’d like to act a practical question. If you’re taking a medication, that says you shouldn’t drink while using it, then why are you on a reality show built around drinking?

I think she means this though specifically in an American context. Japanese citizens probably wouldn’t be offended by someone in a geisha costume because they’re not a minority group. Japanese Americans on the other hand might have a different experience because they are a minority group.

Honestly I think the biggest issue in all this is that the people whose culture is being appropriated are otherwise treated poorly by the people doing the appropriating (and US society writ large). It’s all about “you care for my appearance but you don’t care for me”.

“So, a person who wears a dumb “geisha girl” costume is not the same fucking thing as Lafcadio Hearn (Koizumi Yakumo) who assimilated and chose to live and breathe the culture.”

I second the fuck out Salma Hayek. Her comment toward Jessica Williams (“Who are you when you’re not black and you’re not a woman? Who are you and what have you got to give?”) was so condescending and privileged and generally rage-inducing. I wasn’t really here for her anyway, but that sealed it.

I think the people reading this website have already figured out Ivanka is just a dumb ineffectual bitch who benefits off of her racist, sexist, asshole father by pretending to be above it all. Let her burn. I want to see her lose everything and I want to see her little plastic surgery nose and cheekbones fall…