I think it’s so ironic that your very on-point response, based on your clearly having actually read the article, is so much more concise and short (while saying exactly what needed saying) than the comment it’s replying to. Thank you for this demonstration.

If this was only about who spoke out in class more, how did the women in the classes manage to give a fair assessment of their classmates’ abilities when the men consistently over- or underestimated?

Here’s the thing: according to every study I have ever seen, women are penalized for being outspoken.They are more often seen as aggressive and rude for it. Here is the first thing that popped up on a random search:

Not in my experience. I was a big time talker in class, very large scholarship, straight As, often #1 in my classes (and our ranks were displayed) and this still happened to me in journalism school.

No, it’s a man. He’s been a practicing mediator for 35 years, and he’s trying to teach us what actually works outside of a courtroom. Of course my dum-dum classmate knows better because he is (in his own words) “more dynamic” (read: younger). Sigh.

I think it’s not so much that engaging in sex is empowering; but choosing to do what you want to, genuinely, and realizing that the “consequences” are bullshit moralizing that you don’t have to agree with — that’s what’s empowering.

Who is this woman? I need to know so I can write her in for President.

That’s ... what? No. Sorry, I don’t mean to pile on, but it sounds like you have this backwards. The problem here is that women are viewing men and women equally, while men are favoring men and viewing women as inferior. So that data here isn’t about women seeing themselves as subservient—it’s about men seeing women…

Oh, yeah. Same with books. I frequent GoodReads and books with female protags are often pinkified and looked down on. It’s irritating. I’ll see some mediocre book by a man score 4 stars and tons of glowing reviews, while a much better fantasy by a woman is downvoted and overly criticized. People reach when they review…

I used to belong to a movie web site and people there were forever bashing Pretty Woman, Nicholas Sparks adaptions, Eat Pray Love, and the like. Even though I’m not a fan of all those things (I’ve never even seen Pretty Woman), it bothered me because it was an example of how we dismiss “women’s” entertainment as…

A million years ago when I was an undergrad, one of my 300-level classes required active participation in class discussions to get an A. This was made nearly impossible by Annoying Alan, who would hurl his arm in the air at the slightest provocation and drone on about basic facts endlessly.

Old men. Ugh they suck. “You’re too pretty to be a lawyer” is code for “shouldn’t you have just married a rich person and not be bothering me with your ‘words’ and your ‘legal analysis’? My wrinkly old penis is too distractable”

You will get piled on, but I agree. I didn’t see anything shocking about her assessment that young women tend to more subservient to men. Like...that’s how it goes. It takes some time to even notice the sexism in our world. You have to work awhile before you feel it. Have a couple crap relationships before it clicks.…

I’m gonna get so much shit for saying this but studies like this only reinforce my belief that GloStein’s comments about Bernie supporters was a bit on-the-nose. Young women are taught to keep their voices pleasant (no fighting tones, no vocal fry); they internalize their under-representation by keeping their voices…

“Something under the conscious is going on,” Grunspan said. “For 18 years, these [young men] have been socialized to have this bias.”

I'd venture to say that most men, compared to women in general, are mediocre. We just prevent them from participating so we may come up with lame excuses as to why there's no female visibility.

You've just described my entire career.

I think you’re right on here. I’m a comedian and in that field I think one of the biggest things women are robbed of is the freedom to be mediocre. It seems like mediocre male comedians are thought of as “promising” or “up-and-comers” and given the freedom to grow, to actually see if they have what it takes. It feels…

i’m sure these aren’t the same guys who talk over female colleagues 5 years later.

“Something under the conscious is going on,” Grunspan said. “For 18 years, these [young men] have been socialized to have this bias.”