“Thrash it” and you’re going to be down to 80 miles or less total range in a hurry. That doesn’t sounds fun to me. 

I can get an e-Golf for like $21,500 or something after rebates, I think? Sure it only has 126 miles of range, but that’s double what I actually need for my commute. I think it’s more complicated than just a race to create a cheap EV. I’m not buying one because I want more than just a a plopped in motor where the…

There are A LOT of morons. 

A few of those things are just going to last longer in a modern vehicle due to modern rust treatment, more aluminum, more reliable LED headlamps, etc.

That’s my point. Body on frame isn’t automatically better at truck things. 

Yah, and body on frame wrangler can tow 3500lbs, meanwhile my old cayenne unibody diesel can tow 7000lbs.

Fine to lump them together since they both sound like shit. 

Meh

Well said. 

At least get some nice micro fibers instead. 

Sounds great. Seems to have lost that dopey vette v8 sounds. It’s more euro and precise now. No longer screams immature, not shouty. I know some people like that, but I was never a fan.

Boom. This. 

Bizarre? Sounds just right and amazing. 

Exactly.

Definitely wild stuff if it was on stock tires AND brake pads. I don’t think either of those are true.  

Yeah, I will take a little extra aero and fuel efficiency over some machismo tough look any day. 

So don’t buy it. Simple. It’s more of a charging station problem than a range problem anyway. 

Jalop hates Porsche just as much. Look around. 

Cool, but the lap time is going to be really slow. Shopping a Model 3, but I’m not naive about the demands of the ‘ring. 

Hilarious that people are making a big deal about this. Doesn’t make since to us, but it also doesn’t matter... at all. I blame this partially on Audi. Everyone remember the 3.0T that was supercharged?