I don’t remember any swarmex of the sort you are referring to “long before” the various contractors were pushing concepts like Sea Slice (a buddy of mine was one of the COs of Sea Slice). The post-Cole small boat threat was focused more on force protection against small terrorist threats. Pre-Cole any thought given to…

Oh, and you and I both know where the OV-22 and F-35 fits in the OMFTS and STOM doctrine.

Look we can quote NDP-1 and specific pubs regarding littoral warfare and intended LCS employment at each other. We can go to the command schools and critique a battle group performance in a FST swarm scenario and at the end of the day the Commodore is going to fight the way he (or I guess she) wants to fight. And…

Yep, bigger than a Griffin, my bad. Should have said a bigger missile like a Maverick or something for reference. Bottom line it’s not a C-802 class missile.

Your problem is I used to do this for a living and while I’m not current (2011ish) I don’t need access to open source intel to do analysis. Development of doctrine and planning systems is what I used to do.

Those aren’t their FACs the US Navy is trying to counter.

The Nasr-1s on the Zolfaghar are NOT C-802s as you’ve been posting about. It’s likely a C-701 clone and on par with a Griffin.

FACs are not $40K. FACs run from around $10M to $100M. The Type 022s are estimated to be about $50M. The Type 021s the Iranians bought probably in the $20-30M range.

Against 14 FACs your 4 LCS escorts are dead meat. 4 x 11 SeaRAM vs 14 x 4 C-802s. And the most advanced ASM system is still Aegis.

The 5”/54 Mk 45 is more than capable of killing 35 knot FACs if they are dumb enough to get within gun range.

If you’re going through the straits there are enough shore batteries that FACs aren’t required. There’s a bunch on Qeshm Island.

Depends on the TTP. Stripping the escorts is a viable option to enable the next wave gets through.

LOCAS would have done it but it was cancelled. Presumably it didn’t work that well.

ESGs have to be close to shore to carry out it’s mission and allow for a swarm to work.

It can a carrier but only in very limited scenarios.

Paul, I’ll let you and everyone else in on the secret. Especially since Tyler is wisely ignoring this post exists. :)

Nobody ever said Russians were stupid. :)

Yes, it is the primary weapon but its a design requirement born from near-desperation as planners looked at potential missile loads/inventory and the number of Russian tanks that could flood the Fulda Gap.

It’s not 1965 anymore. And I didn’t write that...just modified it...

Well, I’m sure Tyler is too smart to respond to this well written piece by an intelligent author...its a no win scenario. (Note: It’s not me).