ICE still winning in my personal trade-off matrix. I’m certainly not ideologically opposed to any of the options, but the electric variants still don’t strike a balance of price/performance/convenience yet.

You’re asking the wrong question. It’s the same as asking “how much HP do you actually need?”, “how many features?”, “how much towing capacity?”, “how much ground clearance?”, etc. People generally don’t make car-buying decisions based on minimum needs.

I do understand fossil fuel subsidies. What’s the point of your whataboutism?

Well, I was more thinking about auto execs and investors, but I suppose yeah. Wealthy is a relative term. Most people do not buy electric cars because they are too expensive given their limitations.

You’re preaching to the choir Jack. I ride my bike everywhere. Just not a big fan of shelling out billions of dollars of taxpayer money to the wealthy in general.

EVs will sell when you slap unsustainable incentives on them. Is there a single manufacturer selling EVs in the US at a profit aside from Tesla?

And notably, all things we already see in the US regularly. 10 people dead from a Listeria outbreak, regular stories about child labor violations and social media jam packed with snake oil “wellness” influencers.

The CCP controlling the economy seems to be working really well for them. Maybe we should reevaluate if laissez-faire capitalism is still getting the goods it used to.

Everyone spies on us, including US intelligence. They banned Huawei products years ago because they wouldn’t give access to US intelligence. I’d much rather be spied on by no one, but if I had to choose, I’d probably choose China since they can’t imprison or kill me. At least not easily. 

He’s sort of right. Cars have gotten heavier to accommodate increasing safety requirements, which are at least in part a reaction to the move to SUVs and trucks and which have also made them more dangerous for anyone not inside them. It’s not hard to imagine an alternate timeline where government regulations didn’t…

How many of these prices are A-plan prices which you can only get if you are an employee or the family member of an employee? The practice of advertising prices the vast majority of shoppers are not entitled to should be illegal by the way.

I’m hoping for a hybrid Expedition with available Pro Power Onboard. Probably a pipe dream but we have power outages way too often. Would love to be able to run my house off my vehicle. 

I have a family of 4 with young kids, a large dog and one vehicle. We need that one vehicle to handle everything we do, even if we don’t do some of those things every weekend.

Don’t forget widespread price-fixing by landlords.

Seems a bit excessive. 

You really think you’re doing something here. Cute!

Our 2018 Ford Expedition transmission grenaded itself at 70k miles. It sat in a shop for 3 MONTHS while the techs had to go through an approved repair process directly from Ford. They and I both knew it needed a completely new transmission but corporate demanded they follow the instructions of an engineer who walked…

“Every” was obviously hyperbole. Your counterexample only proves that EVs that don’t accelerate like a Lambo haven’t been economically viable. Congrats?

Good.

It’s a little pricier than that to get Maltese residency: