Exactly. Up through 2007, the Optima was just a car. It had doors, an engine, a transmission of sorts and probably wheels (the jury is still out on that one)

An excellent evolution of Kia's beautiful design language. Y'all can hate all you want, but remember: This is what Kia was selling as their flagship midsize sedan just eight years ago

You should probably put your Jump to Conclusions Mat™ away.

I'm no expert, but it may have something to do with OH GOD I'M A DOG LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH

nope but I did just finish mainlining the show for the fourth or fifth time

Didn't Futurama do all this first?

Bros will bro, regardless of their manufacturer preference. Here in Denver, I rarely see a bro'd Titan. The majority of owners, it seems, are middle-agers that bought it for some reason, I really don't know

PATENT PENDING

Also the Saab reverse lockout actually kept you from doing anything with the ignition key unless the car was in reverse. At least it did when new. I haven't driven a single 900 that still works that way (or still requires the clutch to be pressed to start the car)

PATENT PENDING

Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of ALL THIS FREEDOM

So far it's a tossup between Canada and Germany. I'd love to get to Germany but the wife speaks French and we would be so far away from everything we know

I'm glad it's not actually. Seriously considering moving up that way for reasons directly Us related

Rebuttal to your rebuttal. Canada is still on the continent of North 'Murrica

Still America (the continent)

DO YOUR CIVIC DUTY

Because, regardless of what transmission you use, shit can still fall down there