Right, which is why we’re talking about future cost of ownership for cars now. Over a 15 year lifespan — so, between now and 2038 — the savings in maintenance and fuel for an EV are going to equal out the extra cost of EV’s vs. ICE equivalent cars on the market today.

Are they going to offer it in AWD form? If not, it seems like a non-starter to me.

The EV tax credit seems kind of pointless when right now every non-Tesla EV has a dealer markup greater than the tax credit.

Just spitballing here, and I know this isn’t an exact comparison car- for-car, but I’ve had my 2015 Mustang GT for 8 years and almost 90k miles. If I extrapolate my costs I’ve already incurred over a 15 year lifespan of a car, an electric car would have saved:

It’s not just initial purchase price, but also maintenance and fuel costs. Even given a higher initial purchase price for a comparable electrical vehicle, the expected cost of ownership over the lifetime of the vehicle has started to equalize.

It’s very specifically the aerodynamics. When Ford’s designers set out to design this car, they wanted to make it look as close to the 60's GT40 as possible. But when test driving that original, they found that it had dangerous amounts of front-end lift and was largely uncontrollable at speed. So they redesigned the…

The interesting version of the Hornet is the R/T version, which is an AWD plug-in Hybrid that’s supposed to have about 38 miles of all-electric range, and a nice interior since it’s just a rebadged Alfa Romeo Tonale. I’m assuming it will be the most unreliable thing since the W12 VW Phaeton, but if it’s not, it’s…

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I do not watch cable news, or any type of television news. Video is the absolute worst way to convey information. If you think Musk’s nightmare handling of Twitter isn’t harming the brand equity of Tesla, I’ll just point you to the chart of Tesla’s share price since the Twitter deal was announced, and especially since…

I could make a bunch of arguments about why you’re wrong (buyers of EV’s tend to skew politically liberal, and are extremely put off by... everything Musk is doing), but the easiest one is to just point at the share price.

100% yes. A year ago, a solid 1/4 of new cars I would see on my daily commute (from Long Island to Manhattan) were Teslas. It was the hot new thing for everybody to buy. Now I would imagine a lot of people who bought them a year ago don’t want to be seen in them.

In June 2021 I bought an off-lease 2018 Lexus RX350 for $33k. My payments for that car are are $605/month on a 60 month loan. You’re talking about paying an extra $100/ month for 2 more years for, like, a well-optioned Ford Edge. I understand that that’s the current market, but it seems insane to me. 

The thing that’s blowing my mind about this is that interest rates are absolutely sky-high. So not only are you paying $50k for a middle-of-the-road vehicle, but you’re also financing it at 7%. Like, wtaf. Who’s doing that? My Mustang is 8 years old and coming up on 90k miles, and I’d been thinking of getting…

In six months Teslas have gone from status symbols to the automotive equivalent of MAGA hats. It’s astonishing; I’ve never seen any brand lose so much goodwill for such a stupid reason before. 

Two years ago a fully restored one of these sold at Sotheby’s for €106k. So I’m going ND.

Oh, I haven’t been commuting for the majority of the last 3 years -- I didn’t go in to the office at all between March 2020 and September 2021, and now I’m working from home 3 or 4 days a week. But when I do get the opportunity to commute, it’s a real treat, because I can just have some alone time to myself. 

I’ve owned old Mercedes — in 2008 I bought a 1991 Mercedes 560 SEL for $4k, owned it for about 2 years, spent $25k in repairs in that time, and gave it away for free.

Selling a “cross-over” without AWD even being available shouldn’t be a thing. At that point it’s just a hatchback. 

I love my commute. Love love love love it. It’s literally the only time I get to myself in the week. Aside from the odd 10-minute lull during my workday here and there, I’m constantly either working, taking care of my two toddlers, or doing laundry / dishes / house cleaning. I haven’t watched a movie or a television…

Eh, my commute is 100 miles a day in heavy traffic that makes that 100 miles take 4 hours on average, so 160 miles at 65 mph is actually a shorter commute than I have. Although I guess he’s not getting to 65 mph on swamp roads...