Hardly anymore. I'll agree with you on a Regular Cab pickup, anything else is a passenger hauler and should be regulated as such. This will catch up with manufacturers soon enough.

Which is the correct categorization.

They’re not the same, though. I was telling, Jason is asking. 

El Caminos and mullets for all Americans!

1. Smallish commuter car/family car

You forgot:

Your Photoshop did a weird thing where it left on a bunch of extra doors. Here you go:

If it’s an actual work truck, and not a drive-to-the-office-and-maybe-take-the-kids-to-the-lake-next-weekend truck, why not single cab? Most work trucks have one occupant, maybe two occasionally, and the rear seats become inefficient storage for a few tools and a jacket. Losing the rear seats means much more room for…

So would these all have the low geared-high tow rated axles? Because frankly that is what I am looking for and no I don’t want another over-sized full size pickup. I don’t need frills, I need a truck that can town and haul, so yes to a longer configurable bed, vinyl seats, and 8k+ towing.

I’d be stoked if Mopar produced 16” x 6” steelies in the 5x5.5 pattern that fits every Jeep from 1940 onward.

... how about making it not overpriced first.

Yeah, I’m a big GM fan, but nothing wrong with the 5.7 Hemi, definitely not the 6.4. 

I didn’t find Eric’s tone negative at all. He seems very supportive of what this judge is attempting.

I’ve lived in the Portland Metro area for nearly 50 years and i’ve never ever heard anyone refer to San Francisco as part of the Northwest. Central and Northern California may not feel like the Southwest but your in a large state that is attached to the Southwest. The Northwest includes Oregon, Washington and Idaho.

Detroit cannot be beat. Sorry.

It’s Northwest if you’re in Mexico

San Francisco is the SW. 

Northwest, specifically the San Francisco Bay Area

The Wranglers that have come out this decade are trash.

So is this the start of a spec rally series?