I understand your point and that’s great, but please don’t include Shinola in the same convo as any brand of value whatsoever. Shinola on your wrist can get you laughed out of the room.

I think you’re way off base here. People like him aren’t disappearing fast, they’re multiplying. Lots of people like Long_Voyager_2nd_Edition raised people like myself (30) who won’t buy clothes, furniture, cars, appliances, golf clubs, or lawn equipment online. It’s easy to see a trend and assume that it does not…

Neutral: I don’t think sales will ever be online only, because people like touching things before they buy them. With generous return policies from online car sellers, the realities of freight costs will take hold, eventually. I would never consider purchasing a car online and the only guy I know who would, already…

Funny how 1500, 150, 2500, 250, etc haven’t meant anything in a very long time but the Big 3 don’t change their nomenclature; 325, 545, C230, etc meant something very recently and their dumb brands can’t help but change the names every stinking generation.

My goodness, the idiocy is strong with today’s morning shift.

I’m just amazed that today’s morning shit managed to contradict itself RE: cutting labor costs but somehow didn’t blame Trump or Brexit for Union employees losing their jobs.

1st Gear, 3rd Gear: Am I the only one picking up the irony here or...?

LOL You nailed it! I specifically put off buying a pickup until the Ranger arrived at dealers because I wanted to see it, feel it, and price it. A small pickup would certainly do everything I need, and would fit in my garage. The Ranger has turned out to be a huge disappointment. Soon FCA will release stratospheric…

YES! It’s ridiculous how expensive pickups are getting. My dad bought a 4wd Crew cab, 3.5 ecoboost Lariat F150 brand new in 2011. Close to (but not quite) completely loaded, it stickered at $49k. Today, you can buy a XLT for $54k and not even have leather.

Funny story about dealership loaners: Summer, 2008 I worked as a lot porter/detailer/utility guy at our local BMW, Land Rover, Jaguar, Mini dealership and as one would imagine, the service department was extremely busy. They had a vast loaner fleet, which was comprised of mostly LR3's and various BMW sedans, all of…

Ugh I remember those days, and they were brutal. I drove a 2000 Ford Focus and went to college only 150 miles from home, yet still could not afford to drive home without help from mom and dad.

Undoubtedly there are some folks reading and commenting here who have whiz-bang exciting cars, but my financial priorities relegate me to a stick shift Accord. At least my car sees redline more times in a year more than their non-bores will until their 4th or 5th owner.

5TH Gear: That stinks. I actually like the Volt. I think they’re cool looking and not at all bad to drive. The problem lies with my, and everyone else’s plan, to never buy one.

You guys don’t understand how trade works, do you? You’re acting like Brexit will make Britain completely cut off from the outside world and nobody will have anything made outside the borders and children will cry.

You’re wrong though

Yes, but I wasn’t about to point out a flaw in their point that works to my advantage.

And another thing: SUV’s’ real world fuel economy is vastly more affected by wind and speed variables. Something about the square of increase in velocity something something

I understand your point, and you are certainly not the first person to argue that the fuel economy penalty is inconsequential, but you’re wrong. Sticking with your example of CX5 Vs. Mazda 3- that 3mpg in the city is a 12% gain in the 3's favor. The Highway number is an even more impressive delta, over 19% increase if…

Neutral: No, McLaren will not give in. It’s not their style, and this SUV market is going to come crashing down in about 4 years. History repeating itself and whatnot.

I hate being a hater but... I won’t be putting any plates on any Supra, because it’s gawdy looking.