natureslayer
natureslayer
natureslayer

Yes, I know. It should be a protected class everywhere.

So if giving a cake to a mixed race couple is “against their principles” they can refuse to serve them? It’s so nice to know that your perfectly fine with discriminating against LGBT peoples if the bigot believes in it really hard. Really tells a lot about your view on LGBT peoples.

He’s not discriminating based on the choice to get married. He’s discriminating based on sexual orientation, which is not a choice.

But this is something that was litigated extensively during the civil rights era, and ultimately the courts reached the opposite conclusion: that because the government has broad authority to regulate commerce, it can constrain the choices of business owners for legitimate economic reasons (e.g., to protect the

The government already has the authority to compel private citizens to act against their principals. You might for instance, oppose our nation’s domestic spying programs, but should you actively interfere with them on the basis of those principals, your life would turn into a shit show faster than I could lose a game

Public opinion cannot be relied upon to protect people. What if a community shunned bakers that provided cakes for gay weddings, and those bakeries’ options were to go out of business or refuse service to gay people? I honestly don’t understand why people think it’s okay to allow businesses to discriminate; it’s

Based on your response, I’m curious: what would your stance be if it was “mixed-race” rather than “same-sex?” Should the baker be allowed to refuse? If no, what is your reasoning as to why there’s a difference?

Providing a service is a choice, but choosing not to do so based on discrimination against a protected class is not.
And, the service in question does not have to be life-or-death in order for discrimination to have taken place. That’s a completely arbitrary argument.

Well good god, man, is being Gay comparable to being a rightwing extremist? That’s a reach right there. Someone should have warned me about that Love, Simon, film, I didn’t know it was gonna turn the twinks into romper stompers.

Political beliefs aren’t a protected class. If you spout right-wing bullshit you can’t be surprised if you get thrown out.

Alternate headline:

Weekend Box Office: No go for Solo show, low blow as Disney’s beau loses glow.

Which is why it’s a stunning (yet, in the current climate, unsurprising) ruling. They literally set a precedent, upheld by the Supremes, that a business can choose to deny service to a “protected class of persons” (or however the legalese goes) based on the (in this case) owner’s (religious) belief. Hyperbole, maybe,

I am a layman using my layman powers of observation to write that the reason for Solo’s middling success is that origin stories are fucking annoying and Star Wars works much better as a triennial release. It’s not Marvel, it can’t sustain yearly interest beyond the devout, stop flogging the mule, Mickey.

This is not a solution either. This assumes that most people are good and hold the same common belief that we all agree is correct.

If your (let’s say, Christian) faith prohibits you from serving people of a certain sexual orientation, or gender, or race, then you have two choices:
1) Move your business to a country which operates under Christian fundamentalist laws, or
2) Get over it, swallow your fundamentalist horseshit and don’t discriminate

I can’t speak to anyone else’ experiences, but to me this feels like a very slippery slope. Religion can be interpreted in any number of ways: there are in fact christian institutions who have no issue at all with homosexuality. What it comes down to is that this ruling has set a precedent that allows for

If it was in fact true, wouldn’t he know that Christ said nothing about gays, but did say to treat everyone, especially your enemies, swell?

Would also be very easy to test that idea against “all aspects of his life” to either prove or disprove that claim that is core to the decision.

I’ve always felt the whole “right to refuse service” thing a lot of businesses still uphold opens the door for a lot of fine line legal ramifications but additionally I sure am tired of this country acting like it’s built solely off the workings of religion