>downvote for being unnecessarily grim

yawn.

Ugh, shut up. If you think that every woman has a clear view on what rape and isn't, consider this: It took me 10 years to realize I was raped because I grew up in a rape culture that taught me that because I was already fooling around with him, I gave him implicit permission to enter me even though I said I didn't…

She never said yes in the show. He forced himself inside her when she was saying no. That's rape.

I was responding to this: "You're trying to argue that women can't change their minds and that rape is determined earlier on and cannot be changed by *direct verbal consent*?"

The problem is not that there was a rape scene; it was that the director, who lives in the real world, in 2014, said that the rape "eventually became consensual," which, I'm afraid, is not a thing.

Mary, you don't have to go and pretend like I am some idiot who does not understand what you were trying to say, because I understand you perfectly. The problem is that in your Asperger's-riddled brain, if things are not spelled out literally for you, you can't figure out what is going on. So I'll quote you directly…

My problem with it was when I found out that the director tried to say it wasn't actually rape. Rape culture in action.

>There are no murder victims to be traumatized because they are dead, but their loved ones remain to be traumatized.

It doesn't matter if a rapist "love" his victim. Totally irrelevant.

>This isn't about whether or not this was rape. It's about what Jaime's perspective and part in this act was.

Yawn. People who "care" about each other can also rape each other.

You, and the director, need to get over the idea that you can just. keep. persisting. to get a woman to have sex with you. it's not ok.