Wow... this post is 7.5 years old. Way to bring it back from dead :D

Champ came to a store where I worked and plopped $12000 on a leather sectional and an ottoman, sometime in early to mid 2000's. Ottoman was backordered, and he ignored our calls to come get it once it arrived

I paid $4000 for one back in 1999, with 80k miles and it was a 1991 so it had nicer wheels. Other than the fact it was quick for back in the day, it was a sack of unreliable shit. 

They way things are looking... we had 11 of them in the family since 2003, and I’m finally fed up. 

Our lease ends in 13 months. Full warranty until then. So they can keep repairing shit as it breaks, but my confidence in Subaru has been shaken a lot. They did say they used upgraded bearings, so we shall see if they break again. 

We have 2x 2017 WRXs. Both needed clutch throw out bearings at 12k miles. My wife’s was just in the shop for 2+ weeks for camshaft followers, new ecm, new OCV, new crankshaft position sensor and new axle seal after it threw a check engine light for crankshaft position sensor.  

Of course - all those big companies just live for that thick profit margin. They didn’t move manufacturing out of USA because of the lack of qualified employees - they just wanted a fatter bottom line.

Agreed, and on point.

Nope. And no one would take a pay cut. Maybe those bajillion dollar making executives should though.

Nike sells 40 billion dollars worth of goods yearly, with almost 50% margin

Well, even your links don’t really collaborate your statement. They don’t use a copy of ETA or Seiko - they use parts of those for base and add custom made chronometer portions, and they still have 50% or more parts made in Switzerland.

Care to elaborate on that? I was under the impression that Calibre 11 and 12 have a long history and are not “copies of cheaper movements”.

You can buy a new one in low $3000's from a non-certified dealer.

I never pay a dime in dealerships these days either. I always have enough equity in my trade-in. Dealerships are good in milking you for what you’re worth - it is up to you to be aware of it.

I guess that is a possibility. I didn’t even know you can finance your tax...

Yup, that’s what seems to be the issue here. I’d love a Tundra Pro or a Tacoma Pro - heck, I can afford one without too much trouble too, but I have enough common sense to realize that I shouldn’t.

1. How can you roll $2000-3000 in negative equity on a Tundra PRO and then suddenly be $16000 in negative equity? Those sell for pretty much MSRP, even used - definitely not $13000-14000 under MSRP. Everything seems to indicate this is a recent purchase, so no time to rack up the miles and make it worth less.

Jesus... just buy two damn car covers and move the “nice but broken” cars outside, and have a garage to work in on the one “shitty but working” and the other “shitty but I need it fixed before March” cars.

#1 - Just as they started their sales comeback on the US market, “management” decides to ruin it by making the cars in China. There is zero chance in hell I would drop $50k-$100k on a Chinese built car.

Alfa*