THIS. “Caught up” really makes it sound like this shit happened by accident. As if any of us could just get “caught up” in something like this by no fault of our own.

This essay should be FAR more widely read:

Seriously. Am I supposed to feel bad if CK or others don’t get their own TV show again? No one is preventing these guys from having a job and providing for themselves and their family. Show business depends on folks paying to see you work, and if enough of us don’t want to hear you talk anymore, then go do something…

Also the phrase “men who are caught up in it” is a ridiculous way of making it seem like the men are victims. Louis CK wasn’t accidentally “caught up” in me too, he is a sexual predator who is responsible for his own actions.

YES! Also, what I can’t get over is the fact that there are plenty of other amazing stand ups who are worthy of filling the space left behind, people who haven’t done the horrible things that CK did. He had his time, he made his money, he fucked it up--BYE. Let’s give someone else a chance. 

This is it exactly. They’re attempting to come back, but there isn’t any real hint of even understanding what it is they’ve done wrong or why it’s wrong. There’s no indication they’re at all interested in changing their ways or learning from this experience, or even really acknowledging the situation, or even really…

I used to like Michael Ian Black but I find his “I’m not saying I forgive Louis CK, I’m just saying we need to figure out a way we can forgive Louis CK” discussions to be very exhausting.

I’ll be honest—the women that these men victimized are serving a life sentence of having all the same feelings of shock and disgust come right back up again whenever they see these assholes, so why shouldn’t they have to serve a life sentence of keeping the fuck out of the spotlight? There are some things you do that…

I feel like these guys are hoping for forgiveness (or maybe just... forget-ness?), but they’re skipping the steps where you really work to acknowledge, not minimize, the harm you did, AND you take steps to make things right. Forgiveness shouldn’t automatically happen because time passes, and victims don’t owe it to…

How is that a contradiction? Saying they aren’t required to do so isn’t saying they won’t lay out some steps.

I would also like to point out that Louis getting back into the business throws an admitted predator into the work place for these comedians. Women will continue to feel unsafe in a business that basically says that a famous man is more important than a safe work environment.

Until a person who has committed an offense has actually acknowledged what they’ve done, apologized, and made every effort to make amends, I refuse to accept them as a fellow human. I don’t care if it’s cutting me off in traffic or murder.

And about how boys need to be raised to view girls as their peers, friends, and equals from day one. We should not accept the “boys will be boys” mentality, the “boys only” clubs, the “girls can’t play with us,” “girls’ toys,” “girls’ colors,” or “throwing like a girl.” All of the slight digs at girls and women, and…

The personal experience thing is very real - it’s why we encourage people to come out of the closet about their sexuality and about having had abortions. It’s harder to hate on those things when they’re attached to someone you know and love. So, yeah, I’ll take it, too.

Her editor inexplicably gets the cops to come rolling up with him - for, why?

Also, it’s funny that Persephone was used as a metaphor in this season’s Harlots. Which I felt was way more satisfying, and I wish there had been weekly reviews of that show instead. HBO has the prestige and the big American stars, though.

Patricia Clarkson spooning red liquid into Dwayne Rock Johnson’s mouth and assuring him that people watch Ballers; people love Ballers.

Of course, Camille could have taken a blue bottle and her suspicions to the police rather than allow herself to get poisoned nearly to death. But then, those would have been the actions of a sane reporter.

We didn’t really get a conclusion on him but I very much hope John Keene went on to find some comfort in life. 

If Dave is in fact a drummer, that goes a long way towards explaining his ignorance. Not all the way, but most of it.