I’m with you. In general no one notices any Mercedes wagon.

The thing is, it is. Not to the level you’re describing, but the dealership I bring my car to explicitly called me for permission to take the car out on a test drive (to one of their related dealerships down the road) to have a tech at the other location fix a clear wrap on my bumper.

Agree entirely, just remember a reasonably optioned Mustang GT is much more pleasant to drive than a FFR. I’ll elaborate...

I’ll add though, kit price != completed build price, and Superformance and FFR really tend to have different buyers, basically a case of buy vs. build. As a reference, I have a FFR Roadster (MKIV) that I built a few years ago.

I’ll add, I live maybe 15 minutes from there and pass by & under it all the time. It’s not like it’s a main artery, and there are plenty of other routes if you just have to get a truck through. Warning signs only do so much, you can’t fix the permanence of human stupidity.

This. In a Mercedes for example, each of the 3 or 4 driver assists (not including ESP/Traction Control) has to be switched off individually. It’s not hard to do but you have to turn off via the menu, one by one, lane keep assist, blind spot warnings, brake assist, etc. After that there’s a nice button on the center…

Yeah, I’d agree. Seeing that is what turned me off of doing it for my car. May be cheaper if you can find a junked e-class wagon with the 3rd row, but that’s looking for a rare vehicle with an even rarer option.

Nope. 100% automatic transmissions.

For what it’s worth, there are a few threads on MBWorld documenting people who have added (have had added) the 3rd row seats to W212 E63's. Seems to run about $5k in parts from a dealership, plus labor or install it yourself.

You take that back.

This x100! Two MB dealerships in town, the one with an in-stock E63 wagon wouldn’t do a test drive. The one without one in-stock arranged a transfer from the other dealership, I did my test drive, and I bought the car. End of story.

JASON Project by chance? Had the fortune of doing the same thing in 1997!

I can answer that yes, Nielsen manages the distribution of boxes, the individual biases, and the impact that has on measurements quite carefully. TV ratings is only part of their business; you don’t get to be a 7 billion dollar multi-national focusing on data and measurement without being pretty good at this stuff :)

I’ll buy that to a point. I think the gripe of some is that it’s not “in the center”. I’ll go so far as to say this is a minority that consists of automotive enthusiasts and that quite frankly, most manufacturers (Tesla included) don’t give a hoot what we have to say.

No doubt....and if there’s one thing we know so far, it’s that Tesla is totally OK with loading up cars with options. Next question; what’s the chance the as shown console can actually be moved side-to-side? What’s the chance the as shown console is nothing but a prop and we’re going to see something completely…

Hah, yeah, it’s a bit of irony. The Prius belongs to the wife, I daily drive a saab 92x. I can at least kid myself that her 44mpg balances out the 15mpg (on a good day) I get with the cobra. In continuing the trend when the saab dies I’m likely going the carmax route if I can find an E63/C63.

The question is, does the general public find that detail (information in front of them) necessary? Beyond the Mini, the Prius has had a center mounted console for quite some time (the entire run of the car) and they’ve sold plenty. I thought it would be a pain until we bought a Prius, have to say, I don’t mind it at…

Very real. SNAP (food stamps) explicitly prohibit the purchase of “hot prepared foods for eating immediately”.

I work 50-60 hour weeks and typically travel 2 days a week, plus wife and child. Built my Factory Five MKIV in 12 months, about 3 months longer than planned due to parts taking longer than expected. It’s very doable. Probably have around 300-400 hours of work into it give or take.