But you seemed to miss this part of the article:

Online dating is a stupid viscious cycle that sucks for most people, I least that’s what I’ve found. You’re trying to put the onus only on men when men are responding to the situation they find themselves because they don’t hear back from women. EVERYONE is part of the cycle. By only blaming the other side you’re…

If that was the case why would he ask to meet on Tuesday?

“Who is saying it’s supposed to be a one-way street?”

I think that’s a false assumption about what those guys are doing. Since men have to send out dozens of messages to get any response, I think a lot of guys are just using “hey” as a shortcut. They get the minimum out so they’re just putting the minimum in. Now, I don’t like that approach myself, but I understand not…

Yeah, that’s annoying, and women do it as well.

But the problem with this article is that it’s not saying, if you like someone, take initiative. It’s saying, if you are a dude and like someone, take the initaitive, while women should just sit back and see whether the guy does plan anything or not.

Because, as the article says, it’s still up to us guys to do all of the initaiting and planning. While some women are willing to do so, that’s not the norm, because of traditional gender roles. But why aren’t we trying to do away with this traditional gender role as well? I mean, if we’re not accepting bulolshit…

Exactly. I mean, I will wholeheatedly agree that it’s not fair when women get saddled with far more than their share of housework and childcare and guys need to step it up in that department.

You know, it’s funny that you bring up kids because the most recent woman I dated was a couple years older, in her late 30s. So I thought, this is great, while I was wary of when we might have the kids conversation, I assumed she didn’t have time to play stupid games and would be upfront on where she stood, and so…

I really don’t care how many messages you’re getting. Because you know what, I’m fucking busy too because I’ve got this thing called a life to get to as well. So I don’t have time for your stupid games. If you expect an actual conversation from me, you need to be willing to actually put in the effort on your side as…

Sorry the guys you went out with didn’t keep up the work. My experience has been a little different, with me doing 100% in the beginning and then going down to 70% or 60% if I was lucky. But my recent experience has all been barely any reciprocity at all. And that seems to be a common theme represented here, with…

And that’s the thing. I don’t want to be with a woman who treats dating like some kind of commodity trading or game. I find that immature.

It seems to me that you’re the one throwing the tantrum...you know, with the crazy all caps and barely intelligible comments.

In my experience, people generally have an idea of who they’re most interested in hearing from.

I’m not a hey kind of guy, because I agree it signals unwillingness to put in effort. Not that my approach of writing substantive and (I think) witty and profile-relevant messages has gotten me anywhere online dating. Usually those messages go straight to the void.

The ‘dick is abundant and low value’ is basically a response to the message perpetuated throughout the media that ‘pussy is abundant and low value’.

Look, bottom line is, if you aren’t willing to do something yourself, don’t complain when the other person isn’t willing to do it either. I mean, you could, but you (you in the general sense) don’t come off looking reasonable. You should be able and willing to put in as much effort as you expect of the other person.…

Great, I’m glad you’re up for equal investment. I think it’s an important bellwether for how a relationship is likely play out.

I think this is the answer: all the straight guys who actually like women and want to make plans with them are not in the dating pool.