It isn’t a Honda engine and it certainly isn’t a Honda gearbox. So no it isn’t in the same zipcode as the Fit.

Nope, this laughably costs more and doesn’t come with a stick shift.

Q:The Kia Rio S 5-Door Is Four Wheels And CarPlay For $20,200. What More Did You Need?

This car is 20,000... not particularly low.

The good stinger costs 51k... it is far from underrated at that price point.

Oh yeah, that looks real nice. The design language on the newest golf is so hilariously bad.

I was excited about the idea of a “r” alltrack... after seeing it not so much. That wagon is ugly as fuck. Stay on the other side of the pond until you graduate beauty school.

This is still 10X better than that golf r. Not sure you’re making the point you think you are.

I wish you guys were this unapologetically harsh with hyundai and kia... there is no reason in hell you’d buy any of their cars over a toyota or honda. Now that their prices are hilariously the same it should be slag city... but it’s not. I’m guessing endless loaner cars has a lot to do with it.

Hell, I’m not even saying there actually are sewer lines there. Some pleb running a for profit YouTube says they’re allegedly there so I guess that’s good enough for you and whoever else.

Im not angry, just disappointed.

I see what you’ve done... you took a comment about sewer lines being diverted, your words: “Sewer lines have to be on the correct grade as well. You can’t drop the line at the bridge without dropping the rest of it after the bridge otherwise shit will get stuck” and changed the words sewer lines to road like no one…

If you spent even 5 seconds looking at the videos you can clearly see available space to laterally divert any “alleged” sewer lines. We’re not talking 1000's of feet, we’re talking 20.

I certainly didn’t, yet you chose to respond to me. Good kinja.

Pretty sure I know exactly how sewer lines work. Diverting sewer lines wont change how they work. How in the world did someone thumbs up you. Sit down.

Who mentioned anything about lowering them

You dont lower them you dolt, you redirect them.

Hi, I’m also new to cars.

There is no good reason. People say “sewer lines” as if sewer lines are permanent like some sort of historical landmark. It’s dumb, and the people that claim this are dumb. They can lower the road and divert the sewer lines. They’re just too cheap to do it.

Should be a “The Root” sticky post...