Love a good lecture based on a joke. Always a good move.

Doh, of course, BEARS!:

Found a couple good ones with elephants:

Absolutely. And that system always benefits the people trying to stop improvements from being made. When the default is “things stay more or less the same,” the people that are mostly ok with that, but would like to make a big mess for stupid reasons are empowered to be radical, while the sane people trying to make…

That’s a pretty big difference, though.

That’s the next step. I honestly don’t know how to get past that hurdle: trying to convince people like Clinton and Obama that they have support to move to the left.

That’s your choice, obviously, and I understand your position. Having voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 based on that same logic (with someone less worthy of scorn than Hillary as the Democrat), all I can say is that for all of the Clinton and likely Gore neoliberalism and horrible record on social justice issues (like…

Sure, not excusing Hillary. I’m just pointing out that she didn’t lead the drive to war, she just stood to the side when she could have intervened.

Given the intentional, detailed, exhaustive effort by the Bush Administration to shift focus to Iraq, it’s not exactly wild speculation to suggest that the hypothetical Gore administration avoids that mess. The people that instigated the Iraq War had working on that since we failed to take the oil fields in 1991.

I thought that way in 2000. I was wrong. You are wrong.

Depends on the choice. Hillary vs. Warren, Hilary vs. Sanders, don’t totally disagree. Hillary vs. Any actual existing Republican, the war crime is to allow John Bolton to once again have a say in our foreign policy...

Doesn’t only come, but you can be damned sure a Republican president will do A LOT of damage.

Couldn’t agree more. I suppose if you limit your criticism to “ecstatic voters,” as you say, I don’t really have a problem with the comment.

I’m not sure the positions are mutually exclusive. Unless we’re trying to stoke fear into the heart of Hillary that she will lose general election votes for BS centrist positions - which I doubt she fears and I doubt is really worth fearing - it’s important that we motivate people to vote, even if its for a…

Please vote in the general. I don’t like Hillary, but the article above should give you a prime example of why a Republican administration is terrible enough that it needs to be stopped at all costs.

Look, I will do anything humanly possible to help out future Presidents Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, but if I’m in a voting booth and it’s Clinton vs. Cruz, or Clinton vs. Rubio, you can be damned sure I’m going for the lesser evil.

And just like the scumbags from Vietnam came crawling back when Reagan won, and just like the scumbags from the Reagan years slouched their way back into power when Dubya took over (Negroponte, Rumsfeld...), you can bet that the whole crew is chomping at the bit to fill out a cabinet if a Republican ever takes back…

Who thinks she’s the instigator? That straw-man is explicitly referred to in the article.

No, you’re right. Everything that is wrong with Hillary will be made right by President Ted Cruz.

Right, but he can survive in the vacuum of space. Consider that for a moment. There is no air in space. He clearly doesn’t need to breath and somehow his skin must be impervious, as well. If it wasn’t, he would die in the vacuum. Clearly he naturally has abilities similar to wearing a space suit. How did the poo-gas…