CARB and the EPA have been working together for a while to unify their rule making set since EPA phase II rules were rolled out in 2004. Phase 3A brought them even closer and the next round was supposed to pretty much unify the rulesets.

Okay so let me get this straight - they took a detuned 2 liter turbo, added a few hundred extra pounds, and then came up with a system output 3 horsepower more than the conventional 330i, for about a 10%-15% price premium. Nice.

Exactly.

Why can’t the government auction it off for a good cause?

Counterpoint: The Gran Coupe style is the most superior of all BMWs. Beautiful and sleek, roomy w/ 4 doors, hatchback versatility. They mashed together the best qualities of 3 car types.

you probably havent made (big) mistakes. Life just isnt fair. The one thing ive learned in 30 years of working full time is that (generally) hard work is no substitute for well off parents nad family connections.

The first time I saw these was on the medium green paint color challenger (no idea what it’s called)....I was immediately hooked. It looked great. Like really great.

Gotta go with you on the a/c repairs. When I was just a wee lad in the early 60s, my mom declared we (she) would never have a car without air conditioning. I guess it’s like “eat your peas” (blech...thankfully my parents never made me do that) or “don’t cross the street without looking both ways” (no cell phones in…

REAL leather

This is like falling in love with a lovely and perfect person but breaking up because her name is Gennifer and you cannot accept it does not start with J.

370z is still a great car, The base model is a priced well for what it is. Infiniti sells the spaceship you’re looking for.

A banged-up Z31 shouldn’t be anywhere near $6k, but as I read down, I was getting closer and closer. That wrinkled door is hiding a clean and well-maintained ride. It’s still too much, but I’m not completely flabbergasted that the seller could think it’s worth that much.

Ordered through a front in SK, ostensibly for a CEO of some sort, driven to the docks, put on a fishing boat, sailed north, and there ya go.

I literally had no idea people hated the sound of the VQ. I like it myself, and most of the other car people I know like it. Then all of a sudden I start seeing people talking about how awful it sounds? I dunno... I also think that Vr6s sound great, and BMW is incapable of making an inline 6 that sounds good so maybe…

As the first lessee of a 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT with a Borla catback (which car, I imagine, has since been totaled twice) I demand that YOU HOLD YOUR TONGUE. THE BURBLE AND HOWL ARE GLORIOUS!

VQ sounds amazing. Fight me.

The VQ sounds bad? Well maybe with that crappy exhaust the previous stance-owner installed.

I definitely feel like the minority on Jalop. I like the sound of the VQ exhaust (in stock form), and I like the 350/370z. They are simple, RWD cars that might be a little overpriced brand new, but offer a hell of a lot of fun for the money buying one slightly used.

Yeah I’m not quite understanding the hate either. When the 350Z and G35 first came out, the VQ in those had what I thought at the time, was almost a European-esque exotic exhaust note even under light acceleration. Even the FX Infiniti’s had the same exhaust note which was interesting because no other SUV of that time…

Umm what? The VQ’s aren’t that bad. Yes there are better sounding engines, but there are sure a hell of a lot worse sounding engines as well.