Wagoneers or Grand Wagoneers? I’ve seen plenty Ws but not very many GWs. I’m sure the near $30K price difference is what’s keeping the GW sales down.

Kudos to Curry Automotive for seeing an opportunity to move a Brazer EV.

I’d buy a Hornet if there wasn’t so much online about how many issues buyers have had. A few months ago they were offering 0% APR for 84 months. That might be $6k off right there, I didn’t bother to do the math. I know there aren’t very many people that are looking for a tiny CUV with over 250hp and ventilated seats,…

i did not know the Grecale existed , and i forgot the ZDX existed as well.  I honestly would consider the Aviator if i was in the market. 

Stellantis is a money laundering scheme at this point right? I have no explanation for this.

I’m surprised the Wagoneer isn’t selling more by the numbers. I see those things on the road all the time.

Price. And wages not keeping up with price.

Beat me to it. Came to say the same thing.

Serious question: what happened to car sales in the past 20 years or so? I just looked up the stats, and even the Neon sold more than 100K units every single year it was available, and more than 200K units in some years. Now it seems like a car that sells 20K units a year is considered a success.

The Dodge Hornet may well be the worst vehicle ever to wear the nameplate, and also the worst value in the history of the nameplate. The starting price is at least $6k more than it ought to be, and even if it sold for $25k, there are better vehicles to be had at that price.

At Stellantis, we have no fucking clue what you want to buy, and frankly, we don’t fucking care, either. We’ll keep making cars hardly anyone wants to buy, and there’s no amount of logic or reason that will tell us otherwise.  Fuck you, America.

Just as long as we understand we’re talking about inventory turn here. The slowest selling car on the list is also the best selling car on the list.

Jeep missed the point of the Wagoneer. They were rugged/luxury vehicles in the 80s. They are suppose to compete with the Land Rovers and Land Cruisers, not Suburbans and Expeditions.

A lot of these vehicles are overpriced for what you get, the Hornet is a neat little car but the MSRP is at least $5K too high to start off and rapidly goes off the rails, the PHEV is just insanely priced for what you get.

No flak from me. You are correct - these hole in one contests etc are usually backed by specialty insurance companies. Just glad the dealer stepped up, especially considering the field is named after them!

Insurance companies know that most people aren’t willing to cross shop, so they will regularly raise rates until consumers finally get squeezed out. While they may lose a customer that way, they have gained more from other companies doing the same thing. Since everyone keeps doing this, the market continues to get…

I've switched insurance twice in PA. Saved $600/yr going State Farm to Progressive then cut my premiums in half again going to Erie. SF was way more expensive in GA than AL and the local rep said they just didn't want to cover people where I lived so they jacked up the rates.

IDK about that. I had once switched from Progressive to Farmers. Farmers auto was more expensive with the exact same coverage, and the homeowners was more expensive too but with better coverage. In the span of 3 years they nearly doubled my rates even though I didn’t have a single claim. I called them to try to get…

Geico is by far my cheapest option and I dont really know how. Progressive was robbing me blind before switching.

Different companies prioritize different rating factors, and yeah they’re regulated by the state but that just means they have to submit their rating factors for approval, unless you’re in NC premiums will be different (though they could be very similar depending on your profile).