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Eh, I’m fine with ‘don’t pay too much attention’ for things like how light sabers work, etc., but it feels like “these characters are clearly people and yet they’re treated as property” is an issue that it should resolve at some point.

I mean, there are several droids in Star Wars who are clearly sentient and we know that they are considered property, so it’s a rather uncomfortable issue for the franchise. And I don’t know whether this is something that’s still canon or not, but at least at one time it was clear that droids regularly had their

Man, how is it possible that Star Wars has never solved this issue but have instead just continually made it worse?

Absolutely. We can say that the Force was guiding Luke and got him through that impossible situation, but Obiwan and Yoda certainly didn’t know that that’s how it was going to play out. They just saw a partially trained hot head rushing off to fight the galaxy’s biggest badass and they told him that it was a bad idea.

Yep, I agree on everything that you said. I ultimately agree with Prinze on Gray Jedi, but he leans a little more towards “Lucas said it” while I lean more towards, “These are the fundamental aspects of this fictional world, and if your story is fighting against those fundamental aspects then it might be best to just

I think that that’s a good example of a fundamentally good character failing. And obviously not just allowing Anakin’s suffering to continue instead of killing him, but in his failure to help Anakin avoid his fall in the first place. Being a fundamentally good character, as Obiwan is, does not mean that they’re always

There is no conflict between someone being a fundamentally good person and that person coming to the conclusion that it’s not their role to, say, roll up to Russia and overturn the government in order to right the wrongs being done. Indiana Jones was a fundamentally good guy (in a popular action franchise, btw) who

I mean, we’re talking about this in the context of fuckin’ Star Wars, man, one of the most successful and beloved action fantasy franchises of all time. This idea that the only way to have interesting stories is if the bad guys are good maybe and the good guys are bad maybe is just an extremely modern and extremely

Over on Polygon they had an article that explicitly cast the Jedi as space cops and discussed how though they say they’re all about peace they always seem to end up fighting and killing people. My response was, yeah, of course that’s what we see. This is an action fantasy series and so LucasFilm/Disney have tended to

I came here for exactly this type of comment. Take a star, friend.

Again, you’re reading a cynicism into the text that just isn’t there or intended. Obiwan didn’t try to mislead Luke even though what he told him wasn’t objectively true. You’re sort of hand waving away Obiwan’s explanation of it being true from his point of view or the distinction that he makes between Anakin Skywaker

Man, Ed Norton sure looks like him.

And I want to be clear, I like a nuanced villain and a flawed hero. The villains in the KOTOR games are interesting because they’re not just bad guys that want to do bad because bad is so awesome. But a flawed hero is still a hero, and a nuanced and interesting villain is still a villain. The idea that the Jedi are

I think that it’s undoubtably clear that Obiwan and Yoda were wrong in their advice to Luke, but that doesn’t bring their goodness into question. Again, being a good person and a Jedi that tries to uphold good things doesn’t mean that you know everything, won’t make mistakes, etc. Luke was right and his teachers were

You’re reading intention into a story that doesn’t make clear that it is the case. Obi-Wan doesn’t manipulate Luke. He’s not some kind of puppet master, he’s an imperfect person who struggles with his past. As for your #3, I mean, you’re kind of extremely misreading the scene with Yoda. Luke tells Yoda that Vader said

Obiwan wasn’t being manipulative, he was being a human who went through the trauma of his best friend murdering a bunch of people and becoming a personification of evil. And it’s also fine that they’re wrong. Being a good guy who practices the good version of the Force doesn’t mean that you should be infallible. As

Look, I’m all for nuance in moral and ethical discussions, but this infatuation with “the grey” in Star Wars is getting annoying. It’s good for Jedi characters to be fully realized people and not just cookie cutter good guys, and it’s good for Sith to have motivations for what leads them down that path or things that

The first two movies were bad. This one will probably be bad too.

The problem isn’t that Kovich did something to guide future events, it’s that he did something to maintain continuity with what the audience saw in the Short Treks episode. It would be one thing if he intervened in some event because it had to come out a certain way to save a future. But instead he orders upgrades

The idea that the show needed to make sure that continuity was maintained with a short that hardly anyone saw is just the right amount of stupid for Disco. It’s the perfect example of how the people who made the show have all the wrong priories.