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Except that I didn’t say that the technology shouldn’t have advanced. Writers choose what things to put into their fiction, especially speculative fiction. The Disco writers made choices about advancing technology from older shows and in basically no cases did the choices that they made make the show better and most

The difference is that most of the time we aren’t living in a story where the choices that a writer makes can make a story better or worse; increase or decrease tension; create or destroy chances for interesting interactions. It’s not that the way that Disco uses technology destroys believability of the people, it’s

People in Discovery use extremely modern slang and idioms in a way that the prior shows did not. The equivalent of what Disco does would be if in an episode of TNG they used slang from the late 80s or 90s like “gag me with a spoon”, which was current to the TNG era.

Honestly, that would be a great idea not just because it’s neat and an interesting extrapolation of technological progression, but it sets up a perfectly Trek type of episode where that technology has to get taken away for some reason. Trek has always hated the idea of immortality and giving the main characters a chanc

Yeah, I can’t really be too mad about it as an evolution of what came before, but it also just makes the show actively worse. Picard, Sisko, and Janeway had their ready rooms right off the bridge so that conversations could happen in private and then move back onto the bridge, or vice versa. There was a real sense of

There’s a difference between using a modern or natural style of speech and throwing in specific slang or idioms that are so painfully current that they will be dated by next year. Trek has always done the former, less so the latter. There’s no episode of TNG where a character is like, “Ah, man, that’s so wizard!” or

The episode this season where it just stood out like a sore thumb was when Saru and Burham were on that jungle planet being attacked by the security drones. They’re losing the fight so Burham takes Saru’s phaser, sets both phasers to overload and chucks them both into the control thingy hoping that it will deactivate

Truthfully, the advances in technology that the show provides are more annoying than anything else. Instead of site to site transporting being something that happens in emergencies, people use it constantly and trivially to just move around the ship. Long range communication is no longer something that has to happen

Exactly. Part of the problem with the serialized style of storytelling that Disco invested in is that we’re not actually left with a setting that is exactly brimming with stories. So, there’s what, the remnants of the Emerald Chain and the Breen? What else is going on in the quadrant that’s interesting and worth

What are the chances that because this show is going to star young people that the writers use that as an excuse for them to use even more 21st Century idioms?

Same here. We started watching Discovery because we were excited for Trek to be back in a series format and we finished it because we were going to see it through to the end. But I don’t see any reason to start a show with such little promise unless it’s getting wall to wall rave reviews.

My god, the depths to which these people don’t understand Star Trek is just staggering. As if there haven’t always been enormous problems faced by the audience of Trek shows and that those shows used the relative utopia of the Federation as a springboard for exploring those problems. Jesus, the lack of imagination.

There are many, many, many science fiction properties that do that well. Trek has always been more philosophically focused, and when people try to make Star Trek into Star Wars it usually doesn’t work very well.

I disagree and Lower Decks is the exact example of why. Lower Decks could work just fine without the references to other Trek shows because it actually cares about the characters and works to develop them while also telling stories that focus on the kinds of issues that have been the fodder for Trek stories since the

You never looked at a world map? /jk

Indeed, and it seems likely that the Red Box adventurer is facing away from the audience specifically so it could be anyone. It’s a game about imagination and the audience can imagine themselves as that bad ass warrior fighting a dragon.

Certainly, I’ve got a bunch of fancy Transformers on my wall so I’m certainly not going to get too judgey on people’s collections, but yeah, they’re a pretty ugly thing to collect and display.

Yeah, same here. Well, not specifically the hospital thing, but like a trash bin or something. Definitely not the big metal bowl that we used for popcorn.

But that perspective is...kind of sad? We shouldn’t expect franchises to be good and simply content ourselves with the trappings that they bring (warp drive, nacelles, phasers, etc.)? That’s a recipe for bad entertainment and an audience that passively consumes anything put in front of it. People should be engaged

Yeah, agreed. Picard isn’t much better, as Season 3 has some fun moments entirely relating to the TNG cast being reunited, but the plot is just bad. They’re neck and neck for the worst show. TAS is janky, but it has some episodes with genuinely good Trek-like ideas and the fact that it took those kind of ideas and