"he pro-gay characters are mocked as opportunists and generally slightly menacing, suggesting that maybe the writers aren’t quite as on board with gay rights as you might expect from such a liberal show "

the having a baby story line seems like a punt - prepping for the inevitable end, but I'm more forgiving of that because of the awesome 6th season opener where Ron finds out he'll be a father and gets married, all in the span of the 2-3 minute pre-opening credit sequence, and that's the last we hear of it the rest of…

wow, that took longer to read than it took to watch the episode… ;-)

Ok, ok, I give. They should cancel the show and fire the writers, actors and staff, because the stereotype of the long mustachioed chinaman in robes is still so widespread, apt and hurtful and isn't satirical at all.

I believe I said at the outset that Asians have every right to be upset. I also believe most of the outrage was from whites. And if the kung fu bit wasn't satire, then maybe the meaning of the word has changed recently.

Yes, of course racism exists. Which is why _this_ is such a nothingburger. As I said before, white outrage over this show is just sport.

you have made your mind up on intent with himym. I really don't think they hate Asians. I think, as they said in their apology and I take them for their word, they just really love old kung fu movies.

So, you've forgiven her without knowing if it was offensive to African Americans, but you're absolutely sure the kung fu bit did offend Asians? Look, I don't want to be pedantic, but I truly want to know when it's okay and when it's not okay to be politically incorrect. There seems to be no rhyme or reason, other…

I guess I should be clear - I like SS, in fact, I think she's sometimes brilliant. Her Comedy central show was some of the best comedy on tv in the last 20 years. But the himym bit was not nearly as racially offensive as what she gets away with on a daily basis. Sure, everyone knows what she's doing and they give her…

I don't know, this sounds pretty offensive to me. I suppose there's some nuance or context I'm missing - right? But she's an edgy comic and supports all the right causes, so her motivations are pure. https://www.youtube.com/wat…

So, you trust her motivation… based on, um, maybe because of her mistreatment of her own Jewish heritage? But for some reason, you don't trust himym. based on…. what, exactly? Btw, in each of the offensive scenes in himym, the show's stars were surrounded by Asian actors. Actors who somehow weren't offended and…

how can you tell?

I think we're demonstrating that very principle right now. And your example of 'truly brave' comedians is a good one. Most edgy comedians are lauded for being offensive, by the very same people who condemned himym. Sarah Silverman says the n-word and she's considered a brilliant comic because… why?

paying homage to kung fu movies threatens the right of self-(edit) definition for Asian-Americans? Do tell. I am assigning motivation to your post - you like to overreact.

I won't even try to pretend I understand your offense, as a white male I am enjoy an undeserved privileged class status in this country. But I do think the knee jerk reaction to any perceived offense is counterproductive because it cheapens the real thing. If every perceived slight is met with condemnation, where does…

Since we're having a conversation, let me ask you: Do whites have a right to be offended by the episode? And if so, why? The only reason I can think of to be offended is because Beys and Thomas' intentions were racist and they deserved to be called out. Do you believe that was their intent? Oh, and I could give a…

maybe 'destroy' is too strong a word for the actuality of outcome, but it is sport, the trophy being the gushing apology extracted from Beys and Thomas begging forgiveness for their transgressions.

You misunderstand, and I blame myself for not being clear. If any Asians were offended, they have every right to express outrage. What I am saying is that, in general, most of the outrage is coming from morally superior busy bodies who like to destroy people for sport.

I don't think I'm going out on a limb by postulating a greater percentage of whites were 'offended' than Asians. The outrage industry is getting way out of hand. These same people would openly mock someone for being outraged at graphic violence or sexuality, and the only people left you're allowed to openly mock and…

beer is food. "a pork chop in every bottle!"