Yeah, but have you considered that he sounded nice, and he publicly thanked a war widow? Important stuff! I think we need to start giving him some credit.

The reason why Van Jones made that comment about 45 having a presidential moment (barf) is because Jared fucking Kushner complained about Jones specifically, when criticizing CNN for being too hard on 45. There is no way that Jones believes a couple of sentences spoken in proper English that express common decency…

As a vet myself this is something everyone needs to understand: sometimes American Soldiers die for no good reason. They die in accidents, in blue-on-blue attacks, from improper medical care, in stupid wars, in badly planned missions. It happens. “Soldiers have died” is not a reason to keep fighting in and of itself.

Pink Skull is correct here. If the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had been waged by conscripted troops instead of ROTC kids and outright mercs, the War on Terror would be over by now. There’d be like a Weather Underground-esque wing of Anonymous under FBI and DHS investigation. Mass protests in D.C. on the reg. Etc.

As long as you can get American soldiers killed, you will always have defenders, because there will always be people who think saying that American soldiers were sent somewhere to die for no good reason is more offensive than sending American soldiers somewhere to die for no good reason.

Ah, the hypocrisy is thick. Remember when he went after the Khan family and accused HRC of using them as a political prop? Fun times, man. Fun times.

Chris Cilizza is consistently and dangerously moronic. But “Donald Trump understood the applause for Carryn Owens was a moment. And he let it be.” is simply wrong.

CNN is like that friend who’s in a terrible relationship and keeps calling you every three weeks saying she’s really ready to end it this time, and you go out to lunch and plan strategy and spend hours getting a plan together and then the next day you look at her Snapchat and they’re going to Bora Bora. Every single…

The father of the dead Navy SEAL refused to meet with Trump until there was a full investigation into the raid, so putting a grieving wife out there to essentially distract from that is fucking reprehensible.

Sorry to sound like a bitch, but...

The Obama blame really infuriates me. Although he could have, Obama did not launch the mission, because there were too many unknowns. Trump comes into office, sees the opportunity to seem “strong” and against the advice of experts, launches it. The terrorist leader they were trying to capture escapes, no information…

The problem wasn’t recognizing her loss. The problem was how it was done. Especially with the “Ryan must be happy” comment. That was tactless as hell and completely disrespectful. I know vets, and every single one is at least displeased if not outright pissed about how that was handled.

I don’t think there’s any issue with that, I just don’t get the comment Van Jones made about it being the most historic moment ever. We’ve been at war for over a decade, surely both GW and Obama have spoken about other soldiers killed in the line of duty. But Trump does it once and all of a sudden he’s some sort of…

He exploited her grief to (try to) make himself look good after having blamed others for her husband’s death, when it was he who approved the raid that lead to it. He won’t accept responsibility, but wants all the credit for whatever positive result there might be. He also spoke to her on her dead husband’s behalf,…

YES! THIS! Just because Trump didn’t act like a petulant toddler, whoa high bar! Then suddenly the man is greatness? Come the fuck on.

This how bullies work. They beat you down so far you just want it to end. So that when they show any whisper of a hint of relenting or improving their behavior you are so grateful. But they don’t stop. They’ll never stop.

In the meantime, his dad probably chucked a shoe at the TV. That’s going to be one chilly thanksgiving for those poor people.

My issue isn’t with giving her that platform. What happened to her husband is a tragedy, and she should get more attention. My issue is with Van Jones describing Trump’s comments as a historic moment, or what makes Trump presidential.

I said this on another thread, but I’ll repeat it here:

I don’t think the father’s at fault here either (unless there’s more incriminating evidence not included in the article), but to correct you, a 14 year old and a 17 year old having sex is not statutory rape by any stretch of the imagination.