When a similar equipped full sizer starts at about $50,000, maybe not. 

Oh there’s clearly a market for fragile male egos. 

Another overly aggressive looking “ Mid” sized truck that costs as much as a full sized truck used to cost 15 years ago.

Honestly, police cars - and frankly municipal vehicles of all sorts, seem ideally suited for conversion to EVs. They should all have easy access to charging infrastructure every night (and throughout the day) and they almost certainly aren’t going to be putting in hundreds of miles of distance every day.

Agreed.

Huh? You are arguing that that eliminating affordable cars from the market is helping people with lower incomes. How?

Show me the math on that 30k in batteries.

- Shareholder primacy and continuing to vote specifically for quarterly profits via share buybacks and headcount reductions to ensure margin growth? Rich people did that.

I’m sorry, in what world do you think low income people have achieved any measurable QoL improvements? I’ll wait.

Might wanna rethink who’s been reamin’ your cornhole, champion. Sorry to be the one breaking it to you, but the libs ain’t handing out buckets of cash in the ‘hood.

Millionaires and billionaires are literally the people driving up the cost of the Camry.

Yes.  But when wages are going up by 2% and inflation is 3% it’s less annoying then when wages are going up by 3% and inflation is running 6% or more.

The amount of Grand Wagoneers I see in my kid’s carpool lane is good supporting evidence for your argument. If I were in the market for a Range Rover heavy, GLS, or X7, there is no way in hell I would cross shop a fugly body-on-frame Jeep just because its huge and has three rows. Every time I have a Suburban,…

I will frequently point out a $85k F350 king ranch or GMC Yukon Denali.  The thing is they don’t look that different from the cheaper version.  Truck prices vary so wildly within one model.  An F150 starts at $34k and goes up to $85k for a limited.  That’s crazy.

The middle class was squeezed to make the rich, richer.

Wages have not kept up with inflation for 50 years.

In today’s world of higher inflation, the move away from sub $20k cars since 2017 isn’t surprising. $20k in 2017 is like $24,627 in 2023 money. And Per US News, there are over 20 options in this price range with a lot of models coming in with starting MSRPs between $20 and $24k, which is just over the sub $20k limit…

Back in my day we had a better class of rich person, either driving a magnificent luxury sedan or a sports car like a 911. Now we have people spending 80k on a Tahoe that drives like a fancy U-Haul and that has such poor forward viability that every child or rock within a 10-foot radius is in imminent danger.

“woke” is a meaningless deplorable buzzword, only used by brainless mouth breathing douchebags, like you.

“because loud music keeps drivers from hearing emergency vehicles”