Different events and venues certainly have different sized crowds and varying participant self-control challenges. I also have not been to the Houston event. But from the photos in the article, especially the aerial shots, it seems pretty clear that there were hundreds of participating cars as well as vendors. That…

They’re orders of magnitude more fun to observe than to perform.

To be fair, cops need to be posted at every large recreational gathering of humans, from concerts, to street fairs, to parades, to car meets.

Fascists want lower taxes??  Not if you’re using the correct definition of the word.

So, C&C is now an inclusive event for everyone in the automotive community...
...everyone that has vintage, classic, antique, or exotic car money.
Got it.

Not a lawyer, but I feel like there’s some sort of wide-sweeping interstate commerce and/or restraint of trade legal argument to be made at the federal level, that would do away with states’ ability to force new car sales through dealerships.

You just said it—Everything you need to know is online and you know exactly what you want before you walk through the doors. So why be required to walk through the doors at all!!?? Order the car online immediately after learning all you need to make your decision. Now *that’s* the way to do it! It’s the very reason…

Certainly sounds plausible.

I think a good part of the issue is that there are no “career” dealerships anymore, outside of boutique exotic stuff. The entire sales staff, from the managers on down, function in a revolving door model, transiently moving from one store to the next, multiple times a year. The idea of a “customer for life” is…

I’m quite surprised that a left-leaning state such as CA or NY (or major city) hasn’t explored prohibiting dealers from charging over MSRP.

When the 500 was introduced in 1970, with full 10:1 compression and no emissions equipment other than a smog pump, it made 400 horsepower (SAE gross) and 550 lb/ft of torque. So it was quite powerful in its original, “unchoked” configuration. The 1969 472 (same motor, just less stroke) made 375 hp and 525 tq.

I thought classic (European) driving taught the use of the clutch and accelerator in conjunction with the handbrake (not footbrake) for 3 pedal hill starts.

I’m speechless—you’re living in an alternate reality or you’re just trolling. The word-for-word title of the Wiki is the “Car-Free Movement”.

Opening sentence:
“The car-free movement is a broad, informal, emergent network of individuals and organizations including social activists, urban planners, transportation…

It sounds like you’ve lived your entire life in a depravation chamber. This is not out-there, conspiratorial stuff—this is common knowledge that has been outwardly disseminated in the public domain and media for 50 years, decades before the internet echo chambers of paranoia that you reference. It’s literally been…

If you live in the modern world with working faculties and access to media and the internet, and you believe that the notion of groups wanting to ban automobiles is somehow a strawman position, then it’s probably pointless to even attempt a discussion. It’s only been the lynchpin goal of every radical environmentalist…

Not sure I understand your response. I said nothing about public transportation. You made an analogy of cars to horses, but it’s not a valid one since no one has ever sought to ban horses. There are legions of activists who would love to ban cars at the drop of a hat, if given the opportunity. If we assume a society…

There was never an anti-horse movement. There is a very vocal and active anti-car movement, to be sure. As soon as cars are no longer necessary to participate in society, what do you think this vociferous group is going to put into action?

Wasn’t the last Z-car reveal in the previous century...
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THIS!!!!!  Best idea yet.  Kills all the proverbial birds in one felled swoop!

That’s incorrect. Public busses are government vehicles. They can be exempted from pretty much any restriction placed on private cars and trucks.