So just to confirm, your old car did not have stop/start, your new Jeep does have stop start. You had 20-25% lower mpg than your old car and 10% lower mpg than advertised. Since the new one has stop start that must be the reason you’re fuel mileage is lower, is that the conclusion you’re making?

Final bid was $10,500 and “reserve not met” 

Cheap? Definitely not cheap. It’s not going to use a standard starter motor since the number of cycles a start/stop starter goes through is several several times more than a vehicle without stop/start. Not to mention the software development time to integrate the feature.

Just because the engine is restarting does not mean it’s using more fuel than if it had been idling. Have you done a study? Drive the same route 5 times with stop/start on then repeat it with stop/start off and compared the overall fuel consumption? I ask because I worked in the powertrain group when stop/start was…

I guess the customer ordered runs in the paint. 

PCM controls the stop/start, and has an algorithm to determine if there’s more benefit to letting the vehicle idle vs stop/start. I assure you it’s well calculated to make sure the vehicle is saving gas and not wasting it by restarting.

110k??? CP

How is it killing your electronics and gas mileage when they put stop start on your vehicle to increase your gas mileage? 

25 chargers and a focus, WTF?

The resources that you mention are really only valuable if the track can produce a profit, otherwise there’s not much value in the facilities. 

74 acres for 7.4 million, 100k an acre. That’s what an empty lot cost for in a nice subdivision surrounded by 300-500k homes, not in a town no one has ever heard of in South Dakota. CP all day.

$7.5 million a “substantial price reduction” on its more than 74 acres. That’s less than what it was listed for when Brennan originally put the track up for sale, according to the Argus Leader, but it was for sale for around $6.3 million late last year. Both numbers are less than the claimed $15.8-million investment…

Because LJ909's comment was in regards to the Scat Pack, on the SRT (6.4L) model, more bang for the buck.

You weren’t kidding, except the part about looking hard because this was 3rd from the top when I searched for SRT vehicles under 40k

But it’s a Ferrari!

“Officer Teague’s resignation from MNPD effectively ends the Community Oversight Board’s misconduct investigation.

Think back 10 years ago when the V8 Mustang made as much horsepower as the V6 or I-4 turbo does today. 

Because gated shifter!

It’s like the Goldwing of scoots. 

This. And it’s always the automakers that get the most crap for not having “american made”. People never go after the clothing industry, where probably 95% or more of our clothes are made overseas. They’ll complain about automakers buying car parts from China then buy all their tools at Harbor Freight.......