It'd be so cool to see Shane in the present storyline. Or what about Dale - how would he reconcile their attack?

I think time was of the essence, so they could get the hostage back and have an "in" for the attack.

They were dealing with the Hilltop guys.

Nah, he wasn't there yet, considering his flip-out and mental breakdown over his wife dying. That scene flipped his switch. Carl got shot again, and he goes into full massacre mode, as we saw a couple episodes ago. Carl got shot in season 2, was it season 2, and he couldn't bear to leave his side.

THAT WE KNOW OF

Nope. They're preemptively taking out what is an obvious threat to them, eventually.

His one-liners are the best. Remember when he ran over and then shot the cop during the Atlanta hostage swap? "Shut up."

Too much has been established for this kind of plot twist.

I think it was 4 episodes back - the same in which Abraham found the RPGs.

No.

That scene put him on the top of my, eh, he can die, list.

Okay, so they don't feel this is a good option. I don't either. There are pros and cons to both, and it looks like they are going with plan A.

But they don't live at Hilltop. So, they'd just have to kind of set up camp and abandon Alexandria to do what you're speaking of.

I think this is the stop gap, and look, they found some livestock.

Jesus was thinking, they need food, we need ammo. Let's get this done. The confrontation was not likely anticipated.

They'd probably need something more substantial as a barrier or it'd get scavenged. And that is a lot of work to be done outside of their walls.

Hilltop appears to be smaller, but it's not developed land with cement streets and permanent housing structures. Alexandria has less land, total.

Rule number 1 of surviving in the wild - find multiple uses for everything you have.

Cucumbers have spines. Not ribbed for her pleasure.

Scavenging is not a permanent solution, and it doesn't appear they've had much luck. Crops take time, and most crop seeds they've been able to find and grow are not really sustainable. The two biggest crops that could be used to feed people would be rice and potatoes. They don't have the environment to grow rice, and…