Agree to disagree. Because I think the last two books get richer and more fascinating in their diversity and complexity.

We could go back and forth forever on what we consider successes and failures in the show vs the books, but if it took Sansa being raped for you to care about her, I don't really know how to respond to that.

Yeah, but kind of odd to throw that out there when he's doing the same thing.

I just find them immensely inferior to the source material in nearly every regard.

"Seasons 5 and 6 are unquestionably better than AFFC and ADWD."

Which os kind of funny given her "accidentally" let Blackfish escape in the source material. Like kin and family mean something…

You seem very adamant to prove the quality of Seasons Five and Six.

And honestly, the grossness of the entirety of seasons five and six outweigh a few descriptions that made you personally feel icky.

Alright, how about, "I am the gift!"?

We can't have anything get between uniting Sansa with he man who sold her off to be rapes.

Yeah, but then it would make more sense.

Except when they need a scapegoat.

Then why do you like Seasons 5 and 6 so much ? Because that is exactly what they are.

Maybe just condense it efficiently rather than writing in a tired villain trope over what, two, three seasons? I mean, these are paid professionals here, with supposedly Emmy-wprthy writing skills.

I don't see how learning three secrets as Cat and actually carrying out an assassination using guile and cunning - then choosing, rather than be forced and taunted, to be Blind Beth, and then infiltrating the players, rather than bumping into them and flubbing more training montages - can be considered inferior to…

I can only assume we're getting a pale echo of the burning of the Tower of the Hand, except the Sept, or something.

They did it for Bran.

"It’s just unfortunate that [these past two seasons] had to be quite so committed to some predictable, confusing, and seemingly inert developments for us to make that transition."

Two fucking seasons of nothing has been a great way of describing these last two seasons.

I would have so much more respect for the showrunners if they really did branch off and do their own thing, as opposed to these simplified, watered down retreads that twist for plot conviency rather than following a narrative.