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And in turn, there is a group berating those who don't agree with them because "It's not really rape," "It's just a tv show, doesn't mean anything," "Well, that's just what happens historically." I think so far, my "outrage" has been called phony, and I've been accused of wanting to remove all rape from everything

Yeah.

Except then there were numerous statements and apologies and disclaimers from the people behind the creative team from the show illustrating and not-quite-apologizing for it. So obviously, some people didn't find it deliciously fucked up.

Their stance:

And this is the most nonsensical reply I've ever think I've gotten in any conversation so far!

But with Jaime and Cersei, it was. They said it wasn't the intention, but as you see, they fucked up. There are viewers, especially after that scene, that don't trust the storyline or this scene.

But what about Sansa within this role? So far she's thrown out insults and sulked, is the only way I can describe it. Instead, she gets to act out Jeyne Poole, right down to the lack of anything other than accepting the wedding, which was done by Petyr, not Sansa.

There was a scene where he was clearly supposed to intimidate her ala Sansa. Through wit and wiles, she came out in a position of power over him.

My pleasure.

Except mutual consent and respect and human decency, I imagine led to some of those arranged marriages not being rape. For altruistic and pragmatic reasons.

Can you please tell that to the people saying "It's not rape"?

Well, someone who just saw her burn a relatively innocentish man alive.

Yes, we should.

But Rape. It's shot, coded, and filmed….like rape. It evokes callbacks to other scenes of abuse Sansa had to put up with, to help us see how terrible it is. Rape. Don't like rape? Sexual assault.

Except this is now Theon's story, as implied by the writers and the direction of the scene. Not Sansa's. People take issue with a female's story being at the service of a guy's, rather than being allowed to stand on her own merits narratively.

Show is not for medieval audiences. Show is for modern audiences.

She was expected to have sex. She was not expecting to have her clothes ripped off, pushed down, crying out while someone was made to watch. The person who, in her mind, killed her brothers, betrayed her family.

Margaery Tyrell. She wasn't content to just let JOffrey "rape" her, even though it meant she could be queen.

"They used the rape as shock value"

So she "let him rape her", she'd been "expecting it for years" and she stills reacts like a person who emphatically does not want it. And does nothing to mitigate any of it even though she knew this was coming?