There's also the return to that very same house where we got extended scenes of jiggling breasts and torsos and crying and "Let's rape them to death."

"Just turn your brain off, it's meant to be entertaining and interesting."

1. We know this. However, the flippant and repeated use of rape and sexual assault in Game of Thrones can be construed as how apparently, it's okay to use rape and sexual assault willy nilly for dramatic funzies. For the development and arcs of the male characters being forced to watch, rather than the female…

Which is why we got to hear her lovey cries and whimpers of pain.

Honestly? You'll find a lot of people knew/thought/feared that it would come down to that. Not only was it a conscious choice by the creative team to have her replace Jeyne, it was a choice they made for her to be raped, and then film it that way.

"They had her raped."

For some folks it's a very cumulative effect.

More seasoning? Fine, fair enough. I just disagree with the method the creative team decided to "season" her. This isn't some overnight development. Apparently, according to interviews, this was planned since Season 2. So they still thought that it would be okay even after things like their disastrous Sept scene, and…

Appreciate it. I've been a commenter and a reader there for a while. I'd like to think they're legit.

I appreciate the addendum. I understand how you can find that reminiscent, but the crux of the matter is that a group of people have to decided to "read something else" and for that, they're being derided and insulted. They laid out their reasons, and they're not trying to get people to quit watching the show. There's…

Well, she really didn't seem to be into him actually consenting when she 'proposed'. Minor thing, really.

Again, I just disagree with you that everything she had experienced up until this point was her somehow not being in the real world. That happened starting Season 2 onward. She should be hardened. That was the great promise of the end of Season 4.

Let her own it. There's a visual callback to Sansa having her dress ripped by Joffrey. Why not, if she's going to "Make them yours"…take power in this situation? She just had a huge intel dump courtesy of Myranda. Let her pull a Margaery on Ramsay, the way the Tyrell turned his sadistic tendencies to her advantage.

It just had to be rape to trigger it. Everything Sansa has encountered up until this point hasn't been bad enough. A walk in the park, really.

So, tearing her clothes off, forcing her face down on the bed, hearing her cry and whimper and near scream? Not rape?

Because rape.

"it becomes clear pretty quickly that they live in deliberate ignorance by picking and choosing what to acknowledge and notice so as best to be able to be outraged."

I thought she looked kind of pissy. Her arc - or at least, how it was supposed to be portrayed, felt at odds with what was going on screen, imo. She'd roll her eyes and make pithy comments, but never any actual….stuff. Eh.

Fair enough.

But in my opinion, that happened all the way back towards the end of Season Four. That was the whole "Darth Sansa" moment distilled.