The stop sign and stop line locations don’t align, the approach angles are odd, space that was there likely by accident that allowed movements not to conflict is gone, the pedestrian crossings are pushed into the intersection, it has been narrowed to the point where bicyclists should take the lane when they didn’t…

The problem was that the intersection was set up incorrectly to begin with. Changing how it is incorrect so they stop is not a solution.

It was broken before in part because it was set up as an all way stop. Bad design isn’t obeyed. Now it’s been made broken in a way where there is at least perceived danger so people are taking precautions.

What happens is that people design fast roads and then put low speed limit signs on them. Often lower than it was before the redesign. This creates a variety of problems when people drive the road speed and others need to drive the legal speed. Also fast roads are put where there should be slow roads. It’s usually…

The aerial photograph on google shows what is closest to a T shape. It’s a stem going into a curve. Regal is likely the older street and simply curved roughly 90 degrees there. The other street was likely added later. Just a guess. Anyway the approaches are closer to 90 degrees before Mr. Chalk went to work.

Bike…

I did not argue turn lanes were needed, I made the observation of their presence, Mr 5 years as a traffic engineer. It appears that one could follow the arch going NW on Regal which then becomes Springmount and not have to wait behind traffic turning left to remain on Regal. Also traffic heading SE springmount could…

Note you make no specific objections just a claim I don’t know what I am talking about. Go read a vehicle code. Fuck, go read some ITE standards, or the MUTCD. Then maybe just maybe you’ll understand how mr. chalk and leaves made a new wrong. You do know about ITE standards and the MUTCD, right, Mr five years as a…

Exactly, it happens in my area too. Road design is being governed by people with feelings instead of any sort of rational approach. Often these feelings are backed up by some sort of personal agenda as well.

You have some nerve. I didn’t make an argument that they were needed. I stated the fact they are there. Congratulations for playing with strawmen.

Who’s fault is it for not learning the rules of the road? How to proceed with order and multiple lines of vehicles without paint on the road is covered.

It’s pretty boiler plate across north america, here’s an example from Illinois, of which I have greatest familiarity:

Traffic flow. Two cars per ‘turn’ instead of one.

Ah, the “you don’t live there” and name calling argument. What this means is that you’ve never bothered to learn even the slightest bit about road design, traffic control devices, or the engineering behind it. You just “know” what’s the right thing like any neighborhood busy body.

I might not live there, but I have…

That’s the usual way we get bad road design. Self proclaimed busy bodies who feel they know what needs to be done. 

Misusing stop signs, designing approach angles wrong, and just plain doing all sorts of wrong because one feels it will slow down traffic is what creates a mess. If you have motorists that are leaving arterial roads and going on to side streets to avoid traffic problems then someone did the arterial roads wrong.…

The reason things are so fucked up today is because people go along to get along. Which is what that remark says to do. Go along to get along. 

Actually they would likely be better off with no order, removing the stop signs and making it as undefined as possible.

I’ve seen countless turn lanes, marked and unmarked at stop signs and traffic signals. Turn lane does not mean go without stopping. So that seems like a rather irrelevant remark. Boiler plate vehicle code will refer to ‘lines of traffic’ in many situations because not all roads have marked lanes. Furthermore many T…

Bullying is a feature of the school socialization process. It exists because it is suppose to exist. I really don’t feel like going into further than that tonight or in this thread, but analyzing my own experiences that were roughly centered at this girl’s age and learning where the schools we have come from and what…

Best I can piece together school is the same but worse. The penalties for fighting back have only become more severe. So just ignore them has turned into sit there and take it to an even greater extent. At least in my day there were still some male teachers who believed in fighting back or at least could put their…

In the days before these modern things kids just used their memories and the haunting could on until grade school classmates could be left behind at HS graduation.