I’d buy it. It’s not a Scirocco (which I like the look of better), but for the price, you could probably sink another couple of grand into maintenance items (brakes, shocks etc), and have a fairly fun to drive little car to throw around.

I like these vans - lots of room, decently built, visually interesting (especially compared to today’s slab-sided monsters that just keep getting bigger, and uglier) It’s at the tail end of the era when we had more than one concept of what a minivan could look like.

However, they are missing something key:

Going with the 68000 series processors would have completely killed backwards compatibility. The 68K chip bears little resemblance at all to the 6502 internally. (Ironically, the 68K chips are a descendent of the 6809 chips that were in the TRS-80 Colour Computers)

A lot of NextStep made its way into OSX.

If it was an ‘89 SC, I _might_ start considering it (but even then, not at the asking price). IIRC, the turbo 4 in this car and the Mustang SVO had its share of problem with the turbo failing catastrophically. (This may have been a winter issue, I’m not certain - the few of these that sold around here didn’t remain…

In truth, there are many different types of CEO.

What don’t you like about the Celica?

I know it’s nitpicking ... but “mideval-style” should be “medieval-style”.

... and I heard the same kind of comments made about Toyota, Honda and Nissan throughout the 1970s ... and then in the 1980s, those three makers proceeded to quite happily eat the Big 3's lunch.

People were saying that about Toyota and Honda not so long ago ...

Nice looking little car, but not a patch on the Civic of the day. I was very disappointed with Toyota when they rolled this thing out and didn’t even bother to tweak either the engine or suspension to make it a notch up from the very pedestrian Tercel. (in spite of bumping the price a fair bit)

It’s mid-2000's Audi - for me, that’s pretty much an admission that you’re going to rebuild the damn thing one system at a time for the next few years. Really nice cars, lovely handling ... and some of the flakiest engineering to come out of a VW subsidiary.

So? He builds stuff. I wasn’t criticizing that, was I? There’s a big difference between one-off, or even boutique-style, making things and mass production work.

I really liked it ... right up to seeing the instrument pod ... then I threw up in my mouth ... eeyuch! That’s terrible even by terrible 1980s digital dash standards. The only way to make that worse would be to source the electricals for it from Lucas!

You have no idea what I have - or haven’t done. Good Day.

Fair enough - the Supra seems to be a bit polarized - you either loved the Mk IV, or you hated it. I liked the Mk II and Mk III Supras for being somewhere between luxury and touring cars, with a certain elegance. The last version was all performance, but it missed entirely on styling for me (totally subjective…

This particular generation of Celica was an oddball to me. It was considerably heavier than its predecessor, and the styling was bizarrely out of step with the rest of Toyota’s line at the time. Instead of showing the crisp lines that were emerging in the late 70s - early 80s era, we got something that more closely…

What the actual? Did you actually read what I wrote?

Agreed. I’m certainly not saying he’s bad news. I just see Tesla as being in a transition space, and often times those transitions require you to change leadership to get the right skills at the helm.