You might be sarcastic but I think it would be Waters since they would be born in Kings Landing under the royal family, like Robert's bastards? There was one known Targaryen bastard, Aegon IV’s bastard son Daemon, who used Blackfrye when knighted but beforehand was known as Waters.

THIS! I squealed so happily when I saw that.

No, my points were that 1. it's ridiculous to blame the lives lost all on Sansa, 2. there are multiple reasons why she didn't tell Jon about Petyr (which several people in this post have gone over) including the reasoning that she might not have even known that extra forces were on their way, and 3. that if, by some…

LOL should I assume that you're a misogynist because you don't agree with me?? That's just stupid as hell.

You mean if his sister had told him that Ramsay loves to play games with people, is a master at setting traps, and that he was going to kill Rickon no matter what? There needed to be further information than that?? And you going off the belief that Sansa hasn't already told Jon about her experiences as Lady Bolton,…

Jon is not this hardened battle commander, he is LITERALLY the reason why the plans that HE made fell through. If we're going to place blame, Jon is responsible because he ran onto the field, which forced his men to charge into the battle instead of them being able to draw Ramsay's forces to them. Hence why their back…

I think some people will just never like Sansa. First she was too weak and now she's too cold and calculating. She'll never win. Others I think are holding on to the belief that there would have been a better outcome where not as many people died, which is honestly foolish. This is a battle in Game of Thrones. People…

Well he's been the heir to Winterfell since Robb died. Technically, since Robb was declared King in the North, Bran is the next King in the North. Unless Robb actually did write Jon as his successor in his will. Sansa is only wardeness because she was married to Ramsay. Without that, she's just a Princess of…

Not shocked you didn't address any of the other points. You don't actually know how long she's had it in her pocket, just that it's been two episodes. Also, we still don't know if she knew that Petyr and the Vale knights were on their way, so you're making an argument based on assumption. We never saw Sansa get a…

Like 20 people already discussed the ins and outs of this argument already. Main points, 1. 'Typical chick mixed message,' sounds like you're really bitter about something, you should go talk to a professional about that. 2. She insisted on rescuing Rickon before they left Castle Black and admittedly probably knew…

There was literally no way Ramsay was going to let Rickon live. Not a chance. There was no way to save him either. And even so, Sansa knows she's a woman and with Rickon gone, folks would only see her as a regent and not a queen. Winterfell isn't the Bear Islands after all. That might change now, but even still, …

They have an entire episode left to explain anything, its not sloppy it's storytelling. Big moments happen first, then they tell you how it went on, etc. Including those scenes would have made the build up to the battle seem drawn out and it would have ruined the moment of having the Vale army arrive to save them in…

I like how you took her entire argument of, 'Don't underestimate him, he knows how to read people and likes to play games. We should wait for a bigger army. Don't fall into his trap,' as 'Wah, I'm a girl.' Claps for intellect.

I would say saying she is now Ramsay is going way far because he was a murdering sociopath. Her experience with him definitely hardened her though, that goes without saying. As for Rickon, she said it that night, he was never going to make it. He's the true heir of Winterfell, Ramsay was NEVER going to let him stay…

That still doesn't mean she knew before the morning of the battle. She could have received word of their arrival when Jon and company left for the battle, met up with them and led them to the field. OR The Vale army could have arrived to the camp where Sansa and the other lords were staying and she led them to the…

Personally, I don't think Sansa knew that Petyr was coming for sure. Did she have hope? Definitely. Why she didn't tell Jon, there are many reasons why she wouldn't tell Jon and I think it's really shortsighted for people to act as if there aren't. The most important one was that no one trusts Littlefinger. If Sansa…