I used to think the same thing until I started autocrossing. I’ve watched some damn impressive runs from Neons. One time I thought this guy completely overcooked a chicago box but he just trail braked so hard he locked up and rotated that car so smooth I’d swear it was rwd. Plus they sound much better with a good…

You are debating best/worst car taste with a man who has owned and still champions the Ford Aspire Michael. Be warned.

I was exaggerating Skay. This is the internet, people shouldn’t get offended.

That’s awesome, but only awesome because of how terrible the regular one is.

HEY! Dammit, this is getting personal. I loved my Aspire. 3 speed automatic and all. That said I didn’t love it until after I hated it and drove it as such. It survived my mother-in-law owning it, a run in with the biggest buck I’ve ever seen (I live in Ohio), and me doing 160 mile a day paper route like a rally stage…

I’ve ridden in one and can say that I strongly disagree with your statement.

While I agree that is a terrible terrible car and the backseat is used to extract information from terrorists while on a road trip across Texas, that generation didn’t come out until 2001.

Eagle Summit. Is it a van? Is it a hatchback? Who knows?

The man is on to something. I can’t wait to see chipped 4 cylinder mustangs and maros duking it out in parking lots all across America.

Yeah, this is pretty much my thoughts on it too. Anyone who cares what motor comes in it just wants a v8.

Neutral: Why would it be an issue? Its the base engine and typically those buyers only care that it starts and goes.

Yeah, I had a Nissan Pulsar for my first car and it weighed under 2200 lbs and had less than 90 horsepower and I’d say the same thing, it felt pretty quick. You know what was really great about all that? Not only did you have a peppy little car that handled good but since you only made less than 100 hp you got great…

If we’re going off the baseline of 2600 lbs I’m going to say 90 horsepower minimum and 180 horsepower would be a good sweetspot. I’ve got a 3800 in my ‘96 regal and it weighs at least 600 lbs more than that and has fwd and I can still spin the tires with it’s 200 horsepower. Give me a lighter car, rwd, and a manual…

So not taking your personal buying situation into consideration would you say the ND is a better car than a fresh NA8?

1st gear: This is probably the best kind of industry news for us to wake up to.

They should ban her.

People will make fun of me on the internet now.

This is true. Those were terrible impressions but it takes balls to put yourself out there like that.

It’s obvious from the front end that they intended to put in a hood scoop and it looks messed up without it.