You're still missing the point, or you're choosing to ignore it. Apple cannot be granted a patent for an invention that another company has patented. Whether you want to understand how patents work or not isn't my problem, so I'm not going to waste further time on it. All you need to know is that if another company is…

Sounds like a case of Android simply getting a concurrent update first because of the lack of approval process to get into the market.

This will never stop Apple from selling the iPad in China. What this could do, potentially, is to make them stop selling it with that name. Which is certainly problematic, but less problematic than ending sales of the device altogether.

The patent is for the specific method and implementation. That is all.

I'm not contradicting that. What I'm saying is that the second issue, the one revolving around iCloud, won't be resolved for a while, since Apple won't simply be re-arguing the case that was already made. This case (the iCloud one) only addressed whether iCloud infringed on Moto's mid-90s patent, not the validity of…

The iCloud stuff probably won't be concluded for some time, since Apple is going to argue that Moto's patent on syncing is invalid. This case was just examining whether the method of iCloud syncing resembled the method that Moto patented for their beepers years ago.

"Circles and circles... you said it was a patent for a method of auto detection.. so what exactly do you mean.

"And again... all Im saying is regardless of the method the end result is the same as the samsung smart system."

"It uses auto discovery and it controls devices wirelessly.. regardless of the method..."

"I was simply pointing out to @seanpat12 that it is likely that the original iPad (and 3GS) won't support iOS6."

"The goal of Apple is to sell you a piece of hardware, "upgrade" it 12 months later, and remove software support for the original. "

Sounds like you need a full restore.

"and...I work for a Chinese company where the workers are frickin' OVERJOYED that they don't have to work for Foxconn in any event, for any product line."

"Once again your points arent relevant as they have no bearing on what I said."

"At no point am I saying they should cut into their profits. I'm saying they *could* release a line of ethically-made devices."

"True, and what they did speak on was that they had no intention of marketing Gorilla Glass until Steve Jobs approached them and said they needed a strong glass for the iPhone."

""Contracted" implies a contract. Apple and the several other prominent companies can dictate terms in a contract."

"200,000 out of 1 million Foxconn employees create Apple products. I would think Apple has some control over Foxconn."

Time machine reduces the significance for so-called "speedy" backups. This is a total waste of money from any perspective. Expensive as hell and too little space. 240 GB? Come on.

"Not sure what you're referring to, but its definitely NOT for glass."