Right. I guess I'm just assuming the drivers are already at their optimum weight and losing the weight is going to hurt is performance a little.

Guess it does take a while to drop weight on a car. Though the 4.4 pounds has to come from somewhere and the drivers are already in great shape, so that probably means he's going to lose 4.4 pounds of muscle. Its not a big deal of course, just saying I didn't follow the logic.

The better driver... Then someone is going to bitch and moan that the lighter guy had an unfair advantage.

I don't see how this adds up. In most series with a minimum weight the cars could be lighter, hence why they have that rule. Now I'm sure an F1 car doesn't have any real dead weight but I find it hard to believe that taking 5 pounds from a 1,300 pound car is going to make the car slower than having a driver who is…

On one level I think its stupid that the police wasted their time on this. That said I think it sets a good precedent and I hope this will not become common. I don't want to pay for someone's personal transportation and I really don't want a bunch of tripping hazards.

Yeah but they could have made it stop sooner. Just looks super silly.

Does it bother anyone else that the wiper is longer than the windshield?

Its the way you're calling him a redneck and how you feel you're that much better than him. Anyway that's the tone I'm getting. Maybe its just me but I really don't like it when people who have never had to live like broke redneck look down on these people. At least they're a group of poor people generally working to…

Why are you being so judgmental of this guy? He sounds pretty legit if I'm honest. He's obviously broke as shit but still getting around in a car cooler than 90% of things on the road and presumably making money with that goat. Also Lynyrd Skynyrd kicks ass.

Cheaper, not better. They just build our shit, all the thinking is done here.

I guess what I'm saying is its a bad idea but because its already a turbo motor they could make more power if they want to. I agree they shouldn't for a production car but cost isn't the limiting factor.

I just wanted to point out that a fleet medallion just means you can have a car on the road. So a company pays a million dollars per car to have that car on the road, that means the medallion is "earning" 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Its pretty screwed for anyone that wants to be independent though.

This isn't capitalism bro

I'm sure it saves weight, gets better millage, and you can put bigger brakes on it. That said the concept here is to drive the thing off road where none of those things matter that much.

Right, more power wouldn't fit their goals with it. That said it wouldn't cost them that much more to go from 600 to 700ish horsepower by running a bit more boost.

Only things I can nitpick about with it are the silly ascetic things and 17 inch alloy wheels that are supposed to look like steelies. What ever happened to the honest 15 inch steel wheel?

I honestly can't imagine it would cost that much more though for them to just let it build more boost. I mean all they would have to do is change the tuning and maybe run some different head gaskets if they just wanted to be "lazy" about it. My guess though is that they wanted the car to last and be manageable for…

Assuming they've been honest this car wins the game that a lot of manufacturers are playing. It's set the fastest lap 'round the 'ring and it has an astonishing 0-60 time. Personally I care more about fun in a car and I can't say where this car lands on that spectrum but it did what it set out to.

Well shit. They just made everyone look like a bunch of pansies. (Viper and 'vette don't play that game and are excluded)

I'm a pretty nerdy car guy myself and I'd rather start off with more displacement and cylinders. I'd rather make 400 horse than 70, but whatever floats your boat. Journal bearings are still tight tolerance (.0005") and ring gap is important on any engine if you want it to make power.