Better to avoid the crash all together than be in it. I bet ABS has saved about the same amount of lives as seat belts.

Completely agree, better to avoid the crash in the first place. I even like ABS on my road cars and I do a lot of racing and I am a good driver. I do wish it came on later but in the cars that have had it its so nice when someone in a newer "better" car stops suddenly in front of me.

3% of automotive fires are from crashes, its even in the report that's sited in that summary. I've run the math before, on average a car has a 1/30,000 chance of catching on fire in a crash. Meaning it shouldn't have happened 3 times in a little over a month with the Model S.

So we don't agree and you're ignoring the facts. That's the end of it. A car like an 5 series is much less likely to catch on fire in the situations where the Model S did and the statistics back that up. It also makes sense that a car that uses it entire underside as a fuel tank is going to be vulnerable to things…

They're unrelated is what I'm saying. The Model S is worse in this one area, and they should fix that flaw. Just to be clear you agree that the Model is is more likely to catch on fire in a crash right? Now tell me how that isn't a problem.

Are you dumb? There are maybe 15,000 Teslas on the road in the world right now and 3 have caught on fire in crashes that's 1/5000. They're new and have been on the road for less than a year. 1/30,000 cars catches on fire in an accident in this country based on my numbers and 1/2000 cars catch on fire based on your…

If they caught on fire as often as the Teslas I'd agree.

I am not. I am saying that its looking like taking a substantial hit or driving over crap makes it catch on fire. Modern cars are better than that, and when they aren't they get recalled.

They were new before the crash. Your argument is silly.

And he's a Pinto that didn't

So was the Pinto not something that needed attention? The batteries are either in a horrible place or aren't protected well enough if they're catching on fire this often.

Its new, it was made recently.

Most don't have repeated fires on a new car without doing a recall.

I'm not going to respond to everyone's cazy arguments here, I have other things to do. I will say you're an idiot if you don't see how cars catching on fire is a problem. The more this happens the more likely it is someone is going to get hurt or their house is going to burn down. As of now all three of these fires…

These are two totally unrelated things. Its great the car does well in a crash, its a load of crap that it catches on fire when doing so. Do I really need to explain to you why fires are bad?

It shouldn't take people getting hurt before they decide to fix it. I agree its still an oops. They just need to say "hey, we made a mistake, we'll fix it." Then they can justify that like you did.

It it not normal for a car to catch fire after a crash like this. It happens sometimes but it isn't this common anywhere else but with these cars, Pintos, and 70's F1 cars, and we all know how safe those were.

Sure the person that crashed it is fine but it can start other fires and cause a lot of property damage if firefighters don't put themselves in harms way putting it out. Car fires are not ok.

naw, pretty easy to make the car not leak flammable liquids. That's why the pinto was such a disaster.

1/4 isn't armor but whatever. The whole underside of the car is a battery that can catch on fire if its ruptured. That means its way more likely to happen than a gas powered car where it has a ~15 gallon tank way up under it. They need to do better than throw a 1/4 plate on the bottom of the car if poking the battery…