I believe those people. Just wandered into a thicket of creepy pro lifers today. What liars!

Honestly, these pro choicers who are not religious and would never have an abortion are liars and right to life trolls. My baggage is just fine, thanks!

I’ve been getting this all day on the other thread (my fault). “I’m pro choice but I would never have an abortion and I’m not even religious.” Right. New tactics, I think.

I hear what you're saying. Didn't mean to make light of her situation. The whole thing would have wrecked me too. I feel for the whole family.

Listen jerk, I have been VERY clear in all of my responses that I do not think anyone should be forced to do anything. I think that unfortunately, in this country, it’s women who don’t want children who are actually forced to carry them to term. If there is a problem to be addressed, it’s that. The problem is not my…

Right, like didn’t he win an Oscar for screenwriting? That was so bad, I think he believes it himself.

OMG, I bet that’s part of why she married Kanye (and I think they also love each other) - I am sure he shields her from that kind of crap now.

Oh I would be surprised if she buys anything for herself.

I’m getting out of this soon, because all the people that are upset with me for questioning why she didn’t get an abortion won’t leave me alone. And there are other things happening in the world. And I have a job. I think my issue with accountability is that no one can seem to imagine a scenario in which it is said…

It IS! My life is better because of it, I’m sure.

Thank you and I agree completely regarding disability. It seemed from the post that the defects were severe and caused pain to the child, so I was reacting to that. I do hope she gets a big settlement to offset those costs and compensate the family for their suffering, and I’m sure she will.

That’s a great analogy! If someone is on life support with no hope of recovery, it’s understandably a difficult decision to remove them from life support. But if they drag it out for years and years and don’t consider any alternatives, we will all have compassion for them, but some of us will also be shaking our heads…

I’m not in favor of mandating abortion any more than I am in favor of mandating birth. But thanks for simplifying.

Thanks for actually engaging. I think there are people who would say privately in a closed room that this woman is an idiot and that religion ruins everything, but even here on the internet it is taboo to question any woman’s choice to have a baby. I’m not saying that she should have had an abortion or at all…

That’s not how it works in practice, unfortunately, and that is why Walter Scott was running from the police. But that’s another discussion.

Thanks. I know - because it’s abortion and because there are religious underpinnings - they won’t be able to ask for mitigation. They should settle and fire the offending employees, and implement measures to ensure it doesn’t happen again. All of this would happen even if she were required to mitigate. Her damages…

I do think this is the worst possible outcome for the family and hope that they can get the help they need for this child. But I think we (Americans) too often treat pro life decisions as sacrosanct, protected from any and all critique. My personal belief is that men who cannot afford to pay child support should not…

But when she asks the courts to estimate the damage done to her by the clinic’s mistake, she is putting her decisions up for scrutiny. She could have mitigated that damage by choosing to abort in the first trimester.

But when she asks the courts to estimate the damage done to her by the clinic’s mistake, she is putting her decisions up for scrutiny. She could have mitigated that damage by choosing to abort in the first trimester.

Well then I get to be a judgmental asshole on the side of abortion. We’ve had enough of this from pro lifers. To me choice is also about removing the stigma from abortion. She should be accountable for her decision to have this baby that she did not want.