If no-one did I was going to mention it too. It seemed pretty in-the-face to me until I realized people who don't watch Elementary or have read the books with attention (though I only remember it being referenced in the one he retires) do not necessarily connect beekeeping to SH.

@avclub-344347984c66fdd944e8da2acbd44a21:disqus  I love you're comment, because it expresses what I think incredibly well. Sometimes I feel people treat Moffat like a sort of monster that ruined the beautiful, perfect notion they had in their minds when I believed he's actually done a better job than most with the…

I like this much better than my theory, goody goody.

Which? Which edit? (*gossip, gossip*)

I just liked because… Well, it made me smile. :)

I'm beginning to believe those are inversely proportional when it's Moffat.

He left it a disembodied mind where he couldn't die and was nothing but a floating vagueness. When he get's bodies the Doctor defeats him and it's back to square one. The Doctor was there when it was growing and he leaves him in the worst possible situation. Think a new being with only recently a mind of it's own,…

Yes, but it's mostly recent, I think. He's grown in seriousness only since he though killing the Doctor was a good series opener (which, in fairness, it pretty much was) and grew exponentially this half season. Series 5 was really goofy (and Series 4 and its specials, on the contrary, were pretty dark in tone).

I thought about this too, for the record. But..

A friend of mine pointed this episode out to me too. It seems to me Moffat's always had the idea the Doctor was fulfilling some kind of responsibility while choosing the name "Doctor". This whole promise thing should give new meaning to AGMGTW.

The Doctor was erasing himself before Asylum of the Daleks. I don't understand why everyone thinks it started afterwards..

Actually he says "who else?" (has Moffat planned this all along?) so it could be Hurt's Doctor that he's referring to.

He showed he could revive a person that had fallen from the sky in The Snowmen.

But if she HAD stayed dead, then we would be complaining that Strax didn't bring her back with his magic apparatus (whatever it is).

Always carry a banana to a party.

And that's definitely not how Moffat would speak in that kind of conversation.

@avclub-b9a25e422ba96f7572089a00b838c3f8:disqus  So true. Except the Souffle thing, I doubt any of her could make a good one. She's just terrible at it.

I agree. All the "prophesies" everyone's referring to were not actually divined by a witch or something, they are RUMOURS. And yes, Moffat loves to play with that but he has done so repeatedly and we still seem to keep falling for it.

That was my problem too until I realized Tennant's, Smith's and Eccleston's Doctors must not consider Hurt's to be worthy of the title since he broke the promise, and that's why Smith's refers to himself as the Eleventh and stops Clara from saying his name in Journey: he is ashamed of the act of Hurt's Doctors, enough…

"On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh a question will be asked. A question that must never be answered" So far so good, right?