New and young voters need to be more engaged, for sure, but let’s also not pretend the closure of literally hundreds of polling places and hours-long waits in so many ST states clustered where Sanders’ supporters were most likely to be found didn’t have more than a little something to do with turnout there. Democrats…

If your support for Warren was based on her political stances, I hope you reconsider.

Sometimes the Chapo types make an entertaining gag or two (mostly targeting Republicans, media, or Dem party hangers-on) but by and large I think their approach is toxic to organizing; socialist movements aren’t about owning the libs, they’re about building connections between exploited people, making them aware of…

First, that article is from the beginning of October 2019, so well before any two-person narrative was an twinkle in the media’s collective eye; if at that point it was a two-person race for them, Warren was one of those two people!

I mean let’s not overstate Bernie’s performance with older Southern Black voters (he got killed!) but check on Warren’s numbers with nonwhite voters period and tell me who’s done the better job of making their pitches.

Since I know *he* didn’t, which of Bernie’s surrogates and what of his messaging branded her a snake, let alone a cunt? I know Twitter randos tweeted snake emojis at her after she started attacking Sanders, but I truly can’t fathom the level of birdbrainery that’d weight that heavily when making a candidate selection.

Of course a major difference here is that while I don’t think most of Stein’s voters would’ve gone for Clinton had she not been in the race (they would’ve supported another third party candidate or stayed home), ~most~ of Warren’s (motivated primary-voting Dems) actually would have otherwise voted Sanders. Certainly…

Warren potentially Jill Steining* Joe Biden into the nom (and thus a Trump re-election)...whoo boy.

OK, since you dismissed my last reply to you for some weird reason, here it is again:

Considering there’s literally no reason to vote for Biden other than his not being Trump, they’ll have a tough time with that

I think Biden would get crushed, personally, because I think he’d only get in via a contested convention, which would alienate huge swathes of potential voters (myself very much included) for a long long while to come.

Yes, and those four states have not just not picked her, but handed her significant losses, including especially large losses with nonwhite voters. Polls are not sacrosanct, but they’re a decent guidepost to likely results, and none of them have been so wildly off-track that there’s any reason to think her support is…

Says who?

Why?

I hope she’ll face reality and drop sooner rather than later (like, *very* soon, because time is somewhat of the essence), but her political instincts haven’t proven very adept as yet so who knows.

Only if progressives and people who actually want to win don’t unify around Sanders

Also lol she’s dropping out to endorse Biden

Direct action, as they say, gets the goods. Sorry Klobocop.

Flav’s a Trumper, I think?

Because practically speaking she can’t win, and “owning the moderates” (aka not simply reheating the exact same failed politics that got us to this point) is really important if we want to actually a) improve the shitshow that is life in the US for so many people and b) win?