You’ve read a great deal into my three little paragraphs there!

The little two-step of ‘subjective subject’ means ‘it’s your opinion on this area’. Simple as that. You can objectively quantify certain aspects of cars and compare them but when it comes to design... it’s just your opinion. And mine. And everyone who buys them.

Hehe. Touche. I like that kind of design but if you don’t, you don’t. Fair enough. I’m a sucker for wood and quilted stitched leather.

It’s such a subjective subject that there can never be a middle ground in design or art really. You like what you like, I like what I like. All we can do in this area is respect each other’s choices.

It’s a very subjective subject. Very. If I had to list my top 10 cars *just* in terms of design, though, this is #1 for me. Number one.

The photos are excellent, given the dreadful ambient lighting that appears to be there and the fact that the patience of a saint is needed at these events to avoid a photograph full of someone’s trouser suit!

Someone else has commented that these are boring and uninspired. They’re not. The devil is in the details and I’m totally with you on this.

You’ve already written your own solution in that one sentence. However, I suspect any deal along those lines would involve US withdrawal from the entire region, not just Korea.

A huge amount of financial and practical assistance would be required but this scenario works for everyone. China would not be a threat to a unified Korea and no US forces need remain in it.

My opinion in a nutshell too. China is non-interventionist, although it will aggressively pursue territory it feels belongs to them historically, but annexation? A step too far for the party I suspect.

Absolutely no other Council member would accede to giving the little fat child or his representative a veto on resolutions. Bit of a non-starter there.

I like them too - if you ever actually want to own one, now’s the time to do it, before prices get silly. The Diplomat/Admiral/Kapitan are hovering around the £15,000 mark but the Manta/Monza are generally around £5,000.

Less than 100 left, but it looks like quite a few people have them off-road for restoration or just hanging on to them as the prices climb:

Most anything manufactured in the UK in that period of union/management ineptitude was barely suitable for a UK winter, let alone a Canadian one. They were all pretty appalling and left the door wide open for the Japanese to arrive with their reliable, capable cars.

This sports the Griffin and it has nothing British in its genes:

The only difference is Australians know how to make properly exciting cars, but you do it with a V8 that no one can afford to run in any serious numbers in Europe. If you could bring that performance in a V6 or, even better, a TSI 4-pot, they’d sell.

Not by car people. They sell well in the UK, and do a good job in providing affordable, reliable (in most cases) transport to everyone. They’re just not as good as the equivalent Ford.

I’m struggling with these two as they’re not strictly Vauxhall, but the Bitter isn’t strictly Opel either so I have to allow the counter-punch.

The current line up is truly banal though. Vauxhall imported some Holden V8 machines-of-awesome and rebadged them a few times, but no one was fooled. The few who bought them knew they they were buying a 1970s era muscle car for 2000 era money but didn’t care. You can get them now for a fraction of what they cost...

The Diplomat was a Chevy V8 crammed into a Euro-sized car with German handling, and a USA/European love-child styling exercise.