Holy crap! What an amazing turn that I never saw coming. In one fell swoop, flipping the script from 'evil monster' to 'scared alien'. What a perfect episode of science-fiction television. This show is rocking it's second season big time - quickly turning into a classic.

So, you don't think that the majority of viewers were waiting for the moment when Carrie would speak to Quinn? If not, what do you propose viewers were thinking or expecting as the outcome? That Quinn was going to actually die?

"But you backed up that faulty argument not by talking about how it was contrived…"

"…and rather than deal with my actual refutations or explanations of certain things…"

1) You responded to my complaints with some reasoning which I disagreed with - yet you continue to respond in this thread of my original post.

Yep. "Just Let It Go" needs to be the tagline for this show.

"I don't believe you about the betting pools then."

That is the weirdest analogy I could possibly imagine…since when does Trump care about serious criticism?

There are always ever-decreasing spirals of rationalization to explain away any plot holes and character behavior. That's what people that write this stuff count on. I can recall elaborate sand castles of logic to explain the Abu Nazir Kabuki Theater in Season 2.

It's not so much a club as it is a loose affiliation of sentient humans around the globe that don't "realize just how well Homeland explains itself by bothering to listen to what it's saying."

Of course there wasn't any real tension, because we were all expecting and waiting for that moment when Carrie would finally just talk to Quinn. The absence of any phone calls; the virtual ignoring of Carrie by the police; the absurdly rushed storming of the apartment - these were all plot contrivances designed to…

Considering that the entire tension of the scene is built on the foundation of Carrie being out of touch with Quinn - and not on the fact that someone can't use the bathroom - it seems a slightly more important issue to address. And your hostage negotiation excuse fits neither the timeline nor real world scenarios,…

I don't know about where you live, but where I live the police can't just take your phone and use it without your permission. There's absolutely no reason to think Quinn believes Carrie would let them do that - and there's no evidence he thinks she's hiding a gun or trying to incapacitate him in some other way when…

I don't recall the police ever saying that he was a suspected terrorist. If so, I suppose that could explain that issue.

I thought he disabled the nanny's phone because of GPS tracking, but in any case, it makes no difference to my argument. If you understand how cell phone technology works, you understand that people can only hack your phone when they know your number - they can't just randomly hack phones in an area. Why do you think…

He's not "reluctant" to let her in; he just doesn't go to the door (in view of snipers) to let her in. Since he was "protecting" Frannie, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't have answered a recognized call from Carrie for instruction.

He disabled the nanny's phone because of GPS tracking; I'm assuming Quinn's smart enough to have a prepaid, non-traceable account. And his phone was working just fine at the end of the episode.

So that explains why Carrie didn't just call Quinn's cell from her cell during the several hours of the stand-off?

If you're Carrie and you hear that your PTSD-suffering friend has holed himself up in your apartment with your daughter, what's the first thing you do? Not only does Carrie not call her apartment or Quinn's cell immediately, she never calls either phone from the moment she arrives at the scene (daylight) until she…

Not quite sure how someone sunning their vagina, hooking up with someone, or developing a crush on someone they spend an enjoyable 24 hours with is either awful or cringe-worthy, but you keep on rocking that hate.