While I can see in the moment laughing along with the famous/powerful guy who you’ve been tasked with shepherding around (it’s certainly not impressive, but whatever) the part I find really disgusting is when he set up the woman who greeted them outside the bus so Trump could touch her. It’s one thing to not…

Ironic insults and childish behavior do not make you look like the reasonable one here. He has a legitimate argument, pull your fingers out of your ears and join the conversation like an adult or don’t say anything at all.

So we can’t get women/poc behind the camera, but a creep can no show his movies repeatly and still keeps getting projects...

YES - I don’t need Trump to be called out for a fucking spelling mistake or mispunctuation but I definitely need him to be called out every. single. time. he. lies. Especially if it’s fucking obvious.

If Billy Bush were a peer or friend of Trump’s and was egging him on like that, I’d agree he was a complicit asshole. But he was subordinate to both Trump and his NBC bosses (for whom Trump had the #1 show on TV), so Bush really wasn’t empowered do the right thing without fearing for his job.

I don’t think he’s looking to score points with anyone. This seems to be motivated by spite more than anything else. It grinds his gears that he went down for that tape while the Mandarin Orange Candidate got elected.

How easy to say, when it’s Billy Bush’s career at stake and not yours.

Billy lost both his career and his marriage over this tape. He knows it’s real. And, I agree with you, is speaking up because Trump dumbly - stupidly - tried to claim it was faked. It’s probably better for Billy 2.0 to acknowledge this tape and go on the offensive, but as a person who saw a lot of consequences for…

Bizarrely, I never expected Bush to speak up. When Trump started floating the “maybe it wasn’t me!” turd, I actually thought goddamn, and now we’re back at the ‘well maybe it’s not him on the audio, it’s not like he’s visible on the video, who knows, no one can tell!’ bullshit. For some reason I never for a second…

I disagree. In a world where people are insisting Roy Moore is innocent soely because he says he’s innocent, the worst thing we can do is let his lies go unchallenged.

I’d think better of him if he hadn’t gotten off the bus and encouraged Trump to hug an unsuspecting actress but it wasn’t the worst statement in the recent mess and since no one has come forward to accuse him personally of harassing someone I’m going to say he was probably a garden variety butt-kisser like many…

I see no reason to knock Billy Bush for saying this now. He had no reason to say “it was real” until Trump lied about it. He knows a lot of Trump supporters will want to believe that it was all just a mistake or a deliberate fake, so it is rather brave of him to defy them and face probable derision and even serious…

I’m in the grays, anyway, so whatever:

A 172-page brief? After the time had been served? Well. Shelling out $200k (an educated guess) to clear a criminal record suggests at the very least that his sentencing statement of remorse wasn’t exactly heart-felt.

All the above. Plus the reminder that when you are represented by an attorney and the attorney drafts anything — discovery responses, statements, whatever— and you sign off on them, you have adopted whatever was drafted as your own.

They forget what their good book said…

Yes, but there is a reason his name gets projects greenlit. If all the major actors refused to work with him, his name would no longer get projects greenlit. “Oh I see Woody Allen is a part of this.... we won’t be able to get any star power attached, I think I gotta pass”. Hollywood is built on personal connections.…

So they’re completely above criticism? How interesting, I’ll remember that the next time a pop star decides to take a paying gig singing for a dictator and everyone freaks the fuck out about how dare they support such a terrible person. After all, if it’s beyond the pale to even question why a star with as much power…

I think everyone who works with him (in any capacity!) is complicit and worthy of our criticism.

Yeah, I know it’s a hot take, and I get the impulse to lash out. I just think it’s stupid to be blaming women like Winslet and Gomez instead of the men financing his movies (who, statistically, are probably sex offenders themselves).