I get that. But a lot of that happened after World War II with the Indian Adoption Project, making it too recent to be claimed by many families. This isn’t to say that there aren’t White families with Native bloodlines; there was plenty of inter-ethnic marriages in the Old Northwest Territory. We already know that…

2018: Hires Arians again. Would not be shocking.

Not weird at all. As Gates notes, most Black people were enslaved in areas in which Cherokees did not settle or had long ago been forced out thanks to America’s constant seizure of Native lands. In fact, a large portion of the slaves that came to the Deep South areas Cherokees once settled came as a result of slave…

Keep in mind that a lot of claims of American Indian ancestry are based on wives tales and other myths that hide a lot of other issues. This came up some years back with the Elizabeth Warren Cherokee affair.

Keep in mind that a lot of claims of American Indian ancestry are based on wives tales and other myths that hide a lot of other issues. This came up some years back with the Elizabeth Warren Cherokee affair.

Keep in mind that a lot of claims of American Indian ancestry are based on wives tales and other myths that hide a lot of other issues. This came up some years back with the Elizabeth Warren Cherokee affair.

When you say that a person’s actions led to the circumstances in which they found themselves, you are blaming the victim. You can argue semantics all you want but you are still blaming her for putting herself in the situation. That is the textbook definition of blaming the victim.

Given that Ronan Farrow fought hard to get the Weinstein stories out there, even going up against NBC (which refused to support his reporting while he was there), I don’t begrudge him getting his new gig. It is well deserved, the same way Jodi Kantor and Meghan Twohey will deserve plum new gigs and pay raises for…

Blame the victim in this context would simply state: “The woman deserves what happened to her because she was a trollope who slept with a married man.” Or stating, without acknowledging the victimization that happened (or Geiten’s guilt and complicity), tough cookies for her. I don’t speak for others. But I never…

And the issue here is that by INSISTING on focusing on HER (non-abusive, non-criminal) actions, you contribute to the EXACT ENVIRONMENT you are complaining about and you are too stupid to see it.

Who cares whether she shouldn’t have had an affair with him?

You’re the one who keeps responding.

It takes two to make an affair happen, therefore both are in control of what can happen.

The blackmail? Probably. I believe her.

A person can both be a victim and also make bad choices. That happens in real life all the time. In fact, one of the reasons why those who are victims can never get justice is because of our inability to want “pure” victims who have never done anything wrong — even when such expectations are ridiculous given that…

Not at all. I have plenty of friends who have been cheated on — and some former friends who did the cheating. Certainly there are emotions at play. But there is a reason why nearly every sensible person tells other people to stay away from affairs with married men and women: Those folks can’t be trusted.

I’ll disagree with that. I believe he definitely blackmailed her. He may have even photographed her without consent (though that’s for investigators and prosecutors to figure out). On that front, given that Greitens is a man of influence and power, she is a victim and that can’t be dismissed.

Which is also true. Greitens is a slimeball, and no one is saying otherwise. He shouldn’t have had an affair. She shouldn’t have slept with him. Two things can be true at the same time.

Married men who cheat on their wives are untrustworthy. They are breaking marriage vows, betraying their spouses, and engage in all kinds of lying to cover up their misdeeds.

Still “alleged”, which means that he may have taken the photo without her consent or she let him take them and found out the hard way that he was not to be trusted.