YES.
YES.
Which is why it would be fantastic if people stopped responding to their lameass “So a white bros is a douchebag? What a surprise!”-type comments.
At the time this comment was posted, both jujy and mortal dicta were the top two comments. This thread was a response to that.
1) “Maybe they could take up a little less space” is not separatism. That is an absurd leap that I can only imagine was made in bad faith.
Yeah! I’m a stupid bitch! It’s certainly not a years-long pattern of men taking up huge amounts of space here (AND EVERYWHERE ELSE)!
Someone posted a link to a bicycle form, a while ago, where women were discussing, I don’t know, yeast infections or something caused by being in the saddle all day long and I swear the comments were 50% dudes, with half of those going “EW VAGINAS GROSS!” and the other half going “well, I don’t experience it.”
Yes, contrary to what a lot of people are willfully misinterpreting, I am fine with there being men here. It’s great! Hurray! But just...maybe...they could...not...suck up...all the oxygen...on every fucking story?
How funny that I say “maybe men could take up a little less space in women’s spaces” and it gets filtered through patriarchal defense forces as “no men are ever allowed to talk ever to women ever and flirting is dead and the species will die out.”*
And, to be clear, I am so very happy that people are calling those dudes out. I have complained about them before, and I dislike the male domination of the threads (especially when all 3 of the top offenders have absolutely shown their ass on multiple occasions). And I do see the enabling and the fan clubbing going…
I know you’re being funny (and I absolutely know what you’re talking about) but I totally used to think a lot of the problematic male commenters were just women with internalized misogyny issues. I don’t claim to be a smart person :)
Yaaaaas. Preach. It’s the same logic of women defending Al Franken because he’s “one of the good guys.” We don’t have to settle. Men can and should be better.
Don’t forget the “ally scarcity mentality” these shills always promote. “Ladies, shh! If we aren’t nice to these five weird dudes who constantly spam the Jez comment section, we’ll have no male allies left!” Meanwhile I’m thinking about my husband, dad, brothers, uncles, friends and other men who are my actual…
Hmm, let me guess. *Scrolls down*
Are you a casting director or a producer for the Deuce? Remember, Franco is an aspiring auteur, and is likely involved in as many aspects of creating his projects as possible. “This is very standard” may not apply to an HBO show that took years to make.
The funniest part is, Rando is admonishing us that if we aren’t nice enough to the men here, we might lose such trenchant and helpful commentary as “wow, my wife thought this guy was probably a creepy predator and I minimized her concerns, but it turned out she was right! Wow!”
Like, I get that, in a perfect world, a dude should be able to walk into the lingerie section of Target and see what is up with the latest bralette trends or whatever. But I get to have a problem when he shows up (instead of the sales clerk) to answer my question about band sizes and has never worn a bra, had a pair…
This behavior is something that has always bugged me, although the content of what he says is okay. He has openly said that he’s on Jez all day at work and is very fast to make the first comment. Like, great, I guess, but maybe do that over on the NYT or Washington Post comments? Why intentionally dominate a feminist…
It’s pretty easy to figure out who the men are. Just look for the “As a man...” type comments, which are constant.
I regularly visit a women’s fitness subreddit, and it blows my mind how many men show up to offer “advice” on topics they have absolutely no authority on, such as sports bras, birth control, etc. It is just as exhausting when it happens there as it is on Jezebel.
“My wife’s Spidey -sense has always tingled about this guy being a creep.”